Why am I so inept with wall plugs?

Wow! Who would have thought drilling a hole in a wall was such a science?! Bet you can get an online degree in it! Lol
 
Wow! Who would have thought drilling a hole in a wall was such a science?! Bet you can get an online degree in it! Lol

Not a science, but it's certainly a knack, which comes with lots of practice. You need to get a feel for it, know when it's going well, know your drill, to get it straight, and know how deep you need to go.
 
It also really depends on the wall.

In my parents extension built with modern lightweight blocks, mounting stuff on the wall is a breeze. In my property and the rest of my parents property which are built out of tock hard brick with wide joints full of sand-like mortar it's a nightmare.
 
Not a science, but it's certainly a knack, which comes with lots of practice. You need to get a feel for it, know when it's going well, know your drill, to get it straight, and know how deep you need to go.

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SDS drill and decent bits. The cheap plastic plugs- i usually use 5mm bit for the reds and 7mm for brown. That usually gets a bite except in ancient lime mortar :)
 
Just fitted 8 kitchen wall units and first time ever i did not hit any soft mortar, all holes were in brick but there was one area where the drill was going in as normal and was producing brick dust but then got to about 30mm or so and the drill refused to go any deeper, - in a number of places in that area. I was aiming for 65mm for the ficher douoplugs - which I tried and thought they were great by the way.
 
If 30 quid is too much for a set of bits - understandable - then you only neeeeed one - this one:
It's 4mm, which will start you precisely, where you want, in anything, with a diy drill and often without a hammer. It'll be a revelation.
Who cares if the job takes you a minute longer?
Cheap masonry bits are a pain.
I brought that bosh one and its very good but too short.
 
Hi M,
I drill one hole, plug and screw loosely, square the object horizontally, then drill the second hole.
C
 
At one time I had several renters and was doing far too much in them. I accumulated just about every type of wall fixing available, because no two walls were the same. Be wary of SDS drills. I remember using one with a 6mm bit. It was a single internal brick wall. The drill just knocked the brick out of the wall.
I never found one single solution for all cases, but making a small pilot hole first never does any harm except to take longer.
A short sharp drill is ok, the hole it drills is a very good guide so they're never "too short".
And yes as someone said, sometimes the only way is to use a ridiculously long fixing, to get a strong-enough hold.
 
Somewhere on utube there is a chap who supply's and fixes blinds and give some great tips as he comes across all kinds of fixing scenarios
 
My dad used to have several pieces of stick of which he would whittle one down with a stanley knife, hammer into the hole and then cut off the excess! Superb fixing!
 
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