There's also a serious problem with public perception - a surprising proportion of people seem to believe that items that are dangerous will be prevented from sale by the ubiquitous "they".
I don't think it would result in non-availability, so long as the impending ban were known by the manufacturers in plenty of time. I think (and hope) it would make them return manufacturing to the West (or to more respectable parts of the East, such as Japan).As I implied, and particularly if you widened 'China' to include a number of other Far Eastern countries, that would result in the almost total non-availability of any 'Western branded' electrical/electronic products, as well as the ones you would like to 'ban'!
Perhaps we could, if we all made our buying decisions on quality rather than price.Perhaps we could return to an age of equipment designed to last a decent amount of time, and which is maintainable and repairable at reasonable cost compared to buying new. Wouldn't that be something?
Perhaps, although I suspect that there would be years of legal attempts by the (Western) manufacturers to prevent the 'ban' being implemented.I don't think it would result in non-availability, so long as the impending ban were known by the manufacturers in plenty of time. I think (and hope) it would make them return manufacturing to the West (or to more respectable parts of the East, such as Japan).As I implied, and particularly if you widened 'China' to include a number of other Far Eastern countries, that would result in the almost total non-availability of any 'Western branded' electrical/electronic products, as well as the ones you would like to 'ban'!
Indeed - but I thought we were talking about the 'real world'Perhaps we could, if we all made our buying decisions on quality rather than price.
It's interesting that when we tried to buy a decent electric kettle a while back, and paid a lot (five times than a cheapie) more for it from a "good" maker, it, and it's replacements, all quickly failed. We were so sick of it that my wife bought a cheap plastic Tesco kettle for a few quid while she was in there one day, and that lasted us several years. I think that even then it worked, but was looking pretty tatty and discoloured,Perhaps we could, if we all made our buying decisions on quality rather than price.Perhaps we could return to an age of equipment designed to last a decent amount of time, and which is maintainable and repairable at reasonable cost compared to buying new. Wouldn't that be something?
That's unusual for you JohnIndeed - but I thought we were talking about the 'real world'Perhaps we could, if we all made our buying decisions on quality rather than price.
Kind Regards, John
Yes, that is very true - although an increasing amount of 'publicity' (e.g. TV programmes) is highlighting the resource deficiencies which prevent 'them' from doing more than scratching the surface.There's also a serious problem with public perception - a surprising proportion of people seem to believe that items that are dangerous will be prevented from sale by the ubiquitous "they".
Indeed. We've had the same experience with irons (and various other things). We used to buy expensive branded ones, which rarely lasted much beyond their warranty period (if at all!). We then started buying dramatically cheaper ones, in places like Tesco and Homebase, and they have generally lasted 'for ever'. We now tend to replace them (again, with 'the cheapest we can find') when they are starting to look a bit tatty with age, not because they have stopped working. Watches are another example!It's interesting that when we tried to buy a decent electric kettle a while back, and paid a lot (five times than a cheapie) more for it from a "good" maker, it, and it's replacements, all quickly failed. We were so sick of it that my wife bought a cheap plastic Tesco kettle for a few quid while she was in there one day, and that lasted us several years.
- merely a serious resource deficiency which prevents anything approaching effective policing of those laws.
Mind you, there is also the opposite (or is the inverse?) Anyway, I remember seeing in a magazine article, must be 30 years ago about a bolt for one of NASAs rockets. Now it was something like a 5/16" UNF X 2" socket head cap screw. In a Ziploc bag, and labelled up. Non structural, not critical, not special. One out of an ordinary box. $25.Yes, that is very true - although an increasing amount of 'publicity' (e.g. TV programmes) is highlighting the resource deficiencies which prevent 'them' from doing more than scratching the surface.There's also a serious problem with public perception - a surprising proportion of people seem to believe that items that are dangerous will be prevented from sale by the ubiquitous "they".
... and it's obviously not only in the UK, or Europe. A while ago I saw a bit of a TV programme about 'fake components", and it revealed that even "Air Force One" (probably the most 'protected' aircraft in the world) had been found to have been fitted with a significant proportion of fake replacement components.
Kind Regards, John
I use a 1930s kettle, it still works well. It's a biach to keep shiny though!It's interesting that when we tried to buy a decent electric kettle a while back, and paid a lot (five times than a cheapie) more for it from a "good" maker, it, and it's replacements, all quickly failed. We were so sick of it that my wife bought a cheap plastic Tesco kettle for a few quid while she was in there one day, and that lasted us several years. I think that even then it worked, but was looking pretty tatty and discoloured,
And down here at least, the plonkers then switch on their fog lights!- merely a serious resource deficiency which prevents anything approaching effective policing of those laws.
Indeed - as there is a lack of policing on anything. Can you remember when a car with a burned out light used to get stopped by the police?
Nowadays about 1 in 10 of the cars I pass at night has deficient headlights. It is not uncommon to pass cars with both offside head and sidelights dead (This is particular dangerous in the countryside, where they look like motorbikes)
OK, a digression, but symptomatic of the increase in laws and the decrease in policing. Government without thinking.