Zion and the Art of Armageddon

71 dead in a series of Israeli airstrikes on one of their designated 'safe zones' using between 5 and eight 2,000lb bombs. Those aren't precision weapons They're huge area of effect weapons, using them anywhere near civilians is insane.

At least some of those were in a second wave of strikes on the ambulance and other rescue crews trying to help the wounded.

****ing disgusting.
 
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The problem is that the Israelis don't want to compromise, they pay lip service to the idea of a Palestinian state.
Netanyahu talks about "facts on the ground" what he means is that by expelling Palestinians and replacing them with Israeli settlers the need for a Palestinian state will be null and void because there won't be any Palestinians left to populate it.
The Unionists and Nationalists in N. Ireland had to compromise in order to achieve peace.
According to Liberal Israelis the Belfast agreement could have been a template for progress.

www.irishtimes.com

Israel should have been Northern Ireland, say liberal Israelis

Belfast Agreement ‘a real source of inspiration’, says sociologist Ron Dudai
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IT Minion said:
71 dead in a series of Israeli airstrikes on one of their designated 'safe zones' using between 5 and eight 2,000lb bombs. Those aren't precision weapons They're huge area of effect weapons, using them anywhere near civilians is insane.

At least some of those were in a second wave of strikes on the ambulance and other rescue crews trying to help the wounded.

****ing disgusting.
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The Israelis like to talk about so called surgical strikes to take out terrorists.
It more like taking out someones appendix with a chainsaw.
 
fillyboy said:
The 7/7 London bombings saw 32 British dead, 28 at the King David hotel.
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The 7/7 was in 2005...

This from a motion in parliament in 2006

"That this House notes that the sixtieth anniversary of the bombing of the King David Hotel fell on 22nd July 2006; recalls that 96 people died in this atrocity, which remains the highest death toll for British subjects in a terrorist attack; further notes that an event was held in Jerusalem to celebrate this event and that prominent members of the Knesset, including former Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, attended; condemns terrorism unreservedly; and associates itself with the comments of Her Majesty's Ambassador in Tel Aviv and the Consul-General in Jerusalem, `We do not think that it is right for an act of terrorism, which led to the loss of many lives, to be commemorated"

But then I guess you don't believe that those Arabs and Jews with British residency count? :rolleyes:

And do you believe it is right that Netanyahu celebrates an act of terrorism?

Because if you do then it is beyond doubt that your apologist views for the state of Israel would include being an apologist for terrorism and thus null and void!
 
Vinty said:
The Israelis like to talk about so called surgical strikes to take out terrorists.
It more like taking out someones appendix with a chainsaw.
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They indeed have no care for innocent lives...

"At least 90 Palestinians have been killed in an Israeli air strike on a designated humanitarian area.

About 300 people have been injured, according to the health ministry's statement, in an attack which Israel says targeted senior Hamas leader Mohammed Deif and his deputy Rafa Salama.

In a news conference on Saturday evening, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said there was "no certainty" that either of them had been killed.

The strike hit the al-Mawasi area near Khan Younis, which the Israeli military has designated as a humanitarian zone"


So two people targeted and nearly 100 murdered in a 'safe zone' and it's just shrugged off...

Imagine the outcry if Bibi and his chief of staff were targeted and nearly 100 Israelis were murdered!
 
ellal said:
They indeed have no care for innocent lives...

"At least 90 Palestinians have been killed in an Israeli air strike on a designated humanitarian area.

About 300 people have been injured, according to the health ministry's statement, in an attack which Israel says targeted senior Hamas leader Mohammed Deif and his deputy Rafa Salama.

In a news conference on Saturday evening, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said there was "no certainty" that either of them had been killed.

The strike hit the al-Mawasi area near Khan Younis, which the Israeli military has designated as a humanitarian zone"


So two people targeted and nearly 100 murdered in a 'safe zone' and it's just shrugged off...

Imagine the outcry if Bibi and his chief of staff were targeted and nearly 100 Israelis were murdered!
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Israel has no respect for international law.
It demonstrated that as long ago as 1960 when it kidnapped an ex-Nazi in Argentina, and on another occasion kidnapped and killed a scientist in Germany.
Irrespective of the immorality of the Nazis, it simply is not legal to kidnap someone in another country, and to illegally extradite them to Israel, nor to kidnap them and kill them.

Israel has a long track record of assassinating its enemies.

List of Israeli assassinations - Wikipedia

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ellal said:
The 7/7 was in 2005...

This from a motion in parliament in 2006

"That this House notes that the sixtieth anniversary of the bombing of the King David Hotel fell on 22nd July 2006; recalls that 96 people died in this atrocity, which remains the highest death toll for British subjects in a terrorist attack; further notes that an event was held in Jerusalem to celebrate this event and that prominent members of the Knesset, including former Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, attended; condemns terrorism unreservedly; and associates itself with the comments of Her Majesty's Ambassador in Tel Aviv and the Consul-General in Jerusalem, `We do not think that it is right for an act of terrorism, which led to the loss of many lives, to be commemorated"

But then I guess you don't believe that those Arabs and Jews with British residency count? :rolleyes:

And do you believe it is right that Netanyahu celebrates an act of terrorism?

Because if you do then it is beyond doubt that your apologist views for the state of Israel would include being an apologist for terrorism and thus null and void!
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Ninety-one people were killed, most of them being staff of the hotel or Secretariat: 21 were first-rank government officials; 49 were second-rank clerks, typists and messengers, junior members of the Secretariat, employees of the hotel and canteen workers; 13 were soldiers; 3 policemen; and 5 were bystanders. By nationality, there were 41 Arabs, 28 British citizens, 17 Jews, 2 Armenians, 1 Russian, 1 Greek and 1 Egyptian. Forty-nine people were injured.[8][9] Some of the deaths and injuries occurred in the road outside the hotel and in adjacent buildings.

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King David Hotel bombing - Wikipedia

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The fact remains, this wasn't the highest number of British subjects killed in a terrorist attack, that was 7/7 London, by Islamist terrorists.
 
fillyboy said:
The fact remains, this wasn't the highest number of British subjects killed in a terrorist attack, that was 7/7 London, by Islamist terrorists.
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So thank you for confirming that Arabs and Jews with British residency don't count...

Parliamentarians disagreed...

And I note that you didn't reply to the fact that Netanyahu celebrates that terrorist act which included the murder of British people...

Why is that?
 
ellal said:
The 7/7 was in 2005...

This from a motion in parliament in 2006

"That this House notes that the sixtieth anniversary of the bombing of the King David Hotel fell on 22nd July 2006; recalls that 96 people died in this atrocity, which remains the highest death toll for British subjects in a terrorist attack; further notes that an event was held in Jerusalem to celebrate this event and that prominent members of the Knesset, including former Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu, attended; condemns terrorism unreservedly; and associates itself with the comments of Her Majesty's Ambassador in Tel Aviv and the Consul-General in Jerusalem, `We do not think that it is right for an act of terrorism, which led to the loss of many lives, to be commemorated"

But then I guess you don't believe that those Arabs and Jews with British residency count? :rolleyes:

And do you believe it is right that Netanyahu celebrates an act of terrorism?

Because if you do then it is beyond doubt that your apologist views for the state of Israel would include being an apologist for terrorism and thus null and void!
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fillyboy said:
Ninety-one people were killed, most of them being staff of the hotel or Secretariat: 21 were first-rank government officials; 49 were second-rank clerks, typists and messengers, junior members of the Secretariat, employees of the hotel and canteen workers; 13 were soldiers; 3 policemen; and 5 were bystanders. By nationality, there were 41 Arabs, 28 British citizens, 17 Jews, 2 Armenians, 1 Russian, 1 Greek and 1 Egyptian. Forty-nine people were injured.[8][9] Some of the deaths and injuries occurred in the road outside the hotel and in adjacent buildings.

en.wikipedia.org

King David Hotel bombing - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

The fact remains, this wasn't the highest number of British subjects killed in a terrorist attack, that was 7/7 London, by Islamist terrorists.
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The apparent discrepancy does not negate the fact that Israel, and the dominant Zionists, have no regard for international law.
 
ellal said:
They indeed have no care for innocent lives...

"At least 90 Palestinians have been killed in an Israeli air strike on a designated humanitarian area.

About 300 people have been injured, according to the health ministry's statement, in an attack which Israel says targeted senior Hamas leader Mohammed Deif and his deputy Rafa Salama.

In a news conference on Saturday evening, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said there was "no certainty" that either of them had been killed.

The strike hit the al-Mawasi area near Khan Younis, which the Israeli military has designated as a humanitarian zone"


So two people targeted and nearly 100 murdered in a 'safe zone' and it's just shrugged off...

Imagine the outcry if Bibi and his chief of staff were targeted and nearly 100 Israelis were murdered!
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They've admitted they don't know if they even got their intended targets. Targetting the Hamas commanders on the ground in Gaza won't make a jot of difference to the leaders who're safely in Qatar: they regroup, recruit and carry on...
 
Odds said:
They've admitted they don't know if they even got their intended targets. Targetting the Hamas commanders on the ground in Gaza won't make a jot of difference to the leaders who're safely in Qatar: they regroup, recruit and carry on...
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And 40,000 civilians die.
Many more are seriously injured, Medical facilities are destroyed and medicine is prevented from reaching the injured.
 
ellal said:
Netanyahu said there was "no certainty" that either of them had been killed.
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Interesting point. I mentioned this when another similar was hit. While roaming about I came across a Guardian article concerning US hits. They had collected announcements and some people had been killed more than once. This from the ~ISIS era but the US do these hits now and again sometimes mentioning vengeance for some act they are said to have been involved in.

This hit. The area has it's interesting aspects Israel is attempting to get all Gazans into it. It's where they are told to go. The strip is a rather small piece of land. This part is a very small part of that.
 
There's allegations from IDF soldiers that they're routinely burying bodies before emergency services can see them with bulldozers.

It has previously been filmed but the IDF claimed it was an exceptional event.
 
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