Don't forget the wild west ones, the devout Christian/Catholic ones.
Abortion
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Which middle eastern states are you thinking of?
I didn’t say it was the “preserve of the right”
I said usually.
and it seems I’m correct
“Typically, right-wing parties are politically conservative, support traditional women’s roles and family structures. Most do not speak out for gay rights or women’s rights and do not favor a progressive feminist agenda, which includes equal pay and supporting family planning organizations. Furthermore, right-wing leaders have also spoken out against access to abortion and reproductive rights. Sound familiar?”
“Two of the leading right-wing parties in Europe, both of which are led by women, are the Front National and Alternative for Germany. Both leaders, Marine Le Pen and Frauke Petry, during their campaigns and interviews have spoken out against access to abortion and gay rights”
Women’s Rights and Right Wing Politics - Global Justice Center
In recent years, right-wing populism has been spreading across Europe and the United States. The US, France, Germany, Greece and the Netherlands have seen a surge in public support for right-wing parties. Ranging from fascist groups like Golden Dawn in Greece to parties attempting to soften...
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Do you not think there is more to it than the rights of the host? At some point you are killing something that could live. There must come a point where you recognise the foetus is an unborn baby.
that’s a complex subject, it raises all sorts of scientific, ethical and moral issues.
but one thing we must recognise is that:
Abortion rates aren’t lower in countries which make abortion illegal, so making it illegal is no solution.
I think you might have a bit of trouble colecting that data to compare it with legal abortion.
I agree. Around 24 weeks when the foetus is viable. After that it becomes more and more difficult to justify an abortion over a C Section despite the massively greater trauma involved.
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The vast majority in the UK occur under 10 weeks (almost 90%) so there doesn't appear to be a need to change the law, to reduce late terminations. Given it takes 4-6 weeks to know you are pregnant, most seem to get on with the process quickly.
www.gov.uk
Abortion statistics, England and Wales: 2021
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I will listen to medical experts and women.
Not for me to tell a woman what is right or wrong. Especially without taking circumstances into consideration
There is factor that can result in later abortions. A particular genetic test that is more accurate than ones that can be done earlier.
www.nhs.uk
Not much fun. My wife decided to have one. As a special school teacher she is well aware of problems that can crop up based on age when a women becomes pregnant. Also what they mean in practice. All went ok fortunately but if the child turned out to have Down's syndrome she would not have an abortion due to expected quality of life even if that was shortened. TBH I am not sure what my feelings would have been. I wonder what others would think?
Amniocentesis
Read about amniocentesis, a diagnostic test carried out during pregnancy to assess whether your baby could develop a genetic or chromosomal condition.
www.nhs.uk
Not much fun. My wife decided to have one. As a special school teacher she is well aware of problems that can crop up based on age when a women becomes pregnant. Also what they mean in practice. All went ok fortunately but if the child turned out to have Down's syndrome she would not have an abortion due to expected quality of life even if that was shortened. TBH I am not sure what my feelings would have been. I wonder what others would think?
There is factor that can result in later abortions. A particular genetic test that is more accurate than ones that can be done earlier.
Amniocentesis
Read about amniocentesis, a diagnostic test carried out during pregnancy to assess whether your baby could develop a genetic or chromosomal condition.
Not much fun. My wife decided to have one. As a special school teacher she is well aware of problems that can crop up based on age when a women becomes pregnant. Also what they mean in practice. All went ok fortunately but if the child turned out to have Down's syndrome she would not have an abortion due to expected quality of life even if that was shortened. TBH I am not sure what my feelings would have been. I wonder what others would think?
A friend and his wife had a child with Downs syndrome, although they gave her a wonderful life and loved her dearly (she died in her mid 20's) my friend regrets not having had the tests, they would almost certainly have aborted. Very sad.
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Both my kids had Amnios due to hereditary risk that one of my siblings kids sadly suffer from. The first one (when the genetic condition was rare) we had an almost abusive lecture from the doctor about the risks, the second one was a totally different experience. Much more support. It is pretty tense watching the needle go in as they try to push the foetus out of the way.
We made our go-no-go decision before the procedure on the basis that it would be very difficult to make a rational decision after the fact.
We made our go-no-go decision before the procedure on the basis that it would be very difficult to make a rational decision after the fact.
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And that's the very argument.
Sad to hear.
But circumstances need to be part of this subject, not just facts and figures.
Still no female viewpoint. Too many men trying to decide things from a single viewpoint
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You seem to be posting a lot for someone with no viewpoint.
There's a lot of it about.