Bod voted Tory in Harlow. How did you vote?

JonathanM said:
I'm interested specifically in this idea that Muslims are much more likely to vote for a Muslim candidate. I've not seen any evidence for this. In areas with a much higher proportion of Muslims than London, when the Tories or LibDems put up a Muslim candidate, and Labour has a non-Muslim candidate, the Labour candidate usually wins by a huge margin.
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Those are the Labour extremists.
They vote Labour regardless.
And worse than that, they consider muslim brothers in Conservative party traitors.

ellal said:
Have you considered that those who vote for the nasty party could be inherently Islamophobic?

Or they would simply vote against anyone they considered 'non white' just because?
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Possibly there's a percentage of them.
A negligible percentage when compared to the non whites who refuse to even listen to white people's arguments.
But the whites are racist, islamophobic, etc.
 
Notch7 said:
Typical right wing.....

Tony Blair govt introduced ID cards.

Scrapped by Conservatives in 2006

“Identity cards were re-introduced in British law in the Identity Cards Act 2006, enacted during Tony Blair's third Labour government, as part of its counterterrorism initiative (part of the "war on terror", in response to the September 11 attacks and 7 July 2005 London bombings)”
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Thats impressive - how did they do that before they were in government.

One single, national ID card, operated by the state is such a ridiculously bad idea, to anyone who has ever worked in Fraud prevention.
 
The fact is that a fair number of people generally always vote for the same party.There also tends to be an area relationship. Campaigning causes swings or various factors when a party is in power cause them. Race - personally I'd say there is no difference. The same facts apply. Race might alter the always vote the same way split but we live in a multicultural society with a wide variety of splits. Ethnic aspects or what. How do you think people living in this area would be inclined to vote?
Would that be down to conditions or race?
 
My neighbour is the local green council candidate again.. she is still driving an Audi RS6, but she has atleast installed solar power since last time. Not sure how that is going to power her car.
 
motorbiking said:
Doesn't change the fact that some (not just Islam) religions believe woman should not lead.
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I find it surreal to think in 2024 on the one hand in sensible/modern/progressive countries we have women flying planes and leading on major engineering projects etc, and on the other we have countries where they can't work, can't drive, are expected to wear cloth head to toe.

Pathetic.
 
motorbiking said:
Thats impressive - how did they do that before they were in government.
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It was policy and never happened. Lot of big brother watching type arguments.
motorbiking said:
One single, national ID card, operated by the state is such a ridiculously bad idea, to anyone who has ever worked in Fraud prevention.
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Rather strange considering driving licenses and passports.

It was an idea of interest to me. I had someone do some expensive work on the property that was badly done. He proved to be untraceable. Car he was driving nice and new but no intention to ever pay for it. There are people like this about. They can surprisingly get away with it.
 
Its so simple.

1 form of ID, that is universally accepted as proof of ID. proof, when opening a bank account, proof when transferring property, proof when moving funds, collecting benefits etc.. signing contracts etc.

I decide to take your identity, I have an insider in the likely outsourced operator. (capita, etc)

How are you going to get it back?

Today, your ID is multi-factor, which makes it inherently more secure.
 
With one form of ID, it becomes easier to commit Identity theft, not harder and it becomes extremely difficult for you to prove you are you.

The DVLA can't even be trusted to keep an accurate account of people's driving entitlements how are they going to help you prove you are you.
 
Mottie said:
www.bbc.co.uk

Tower Hamlets election fraud mayor Lutfur Rahman removed from office

An east London mayor is removed from office and a poll declared void after he is found guilty of electoral fraud.
www.bbc.co.uk
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www.electoralcommission.org.uk

Electoral fraud data

View electoral fraud data
www.electoralcommission.org.uk www.electoralcommission.org.uk

In the past 5 years, there is no evidence of large-scale electoral fraud.

Of the 1,462 cases of alleged electoral fraud reported to police between 2019 and 2023, 10 led to convictions and the police issued 4 cautions.

Most cases either resulted in the police taking no further action or were locally resolved by the police issuing words of advice.

As to actual issues.

www.politico.eu

Every British MP suspended by their party since 2019

Westminster’s unwanted: endless scandals in British politics mean an accidental new bloc now outnumbers the Liberal Democrats.
www.politico.eu www.politico.eu

Woof woof
 
motorbiking said:
people's driving entitlements
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In my case it appears to relate to law changes. Eg due to when I passed my driving test I was entitled to drive a certain class of vehicle and have in the past. When I renewed on line I found I lost this and would have to renew a different way to keep it. People who pass the test now do not get the same entitlements and haven't for some time. So remove my entitlement. If I applied the other way I'd probably still have problems.

Similar direct access motorcycle. I was warned about this by the bloke that passed me. DVLA see it as a loophole so I will have probllems when I apply for the full license, so apply early. Well I did have problems and allowed a couple of months to sort it out. Form returned The application had been checked. Altered as they suggested. The section changed didn't make any sense at all. Sent it back and it seems they lost it in the system. Threatened legal action and told they are the law. Another go and they noticed that they had a photocopy of the PO check not the original - suddenly things changed - so much for loosing the paperwork in the system.
 
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