So, a Christmas tree on fire means EV's are safe?
EV are they worth it?
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The flawed assumption that if something fails in the battery the whole thing is thrown away and replaced. Has probably been reading the Daily Fail or some other such ragpaper.
In the real world, the battery can be taken apart, the defective module(s) replaced, reassembled and put back in the car.
A few hours labour and the cost of a replacement module - and that's only if something fails in it, which is not a common occurrence.
Of course it does. 100% confirmed by your flawed reasoning that all batteries are fires, all fires are lithium and all lithium explodes on contact with water.
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Possibly, but unlikely - he's a rabid leftie
Also, as I've already posted, an EV-phile.
If what you've said is both true, and actually happens, I'll let him know and he can reevaluate his position.
I broadly agree, but Tesla are pushing their luck with their bonded batteries. It's virtually impossible to replace a cell when they're all glued together. Tesla are betting big on them never needing replacement.
For pretty much all other EVs, as you say, individual cell replacement is possible and relatively simple. What's more, there are companies already springing up, who will do just that.
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The idea that if anything goes wrong with an EV battery cell, the entire battery pack will need replacing, is yet another (rather clumsy) bit of anti-EV propaganda. If someone started saying that if an ICE's water pump fails, you need complete new engine, we'd laugh at them. Yet when someone says something similar about an EV battery, the lack of experience among the general public is such that it sounds far more credible. And, of course, the big, scary prices bandied about, only help to spread the fear. I am very confident that aftermarket solutions (both repair and non-genuine replacement parts) will evolve with the market. 10 years from now, we'll look back at some of these debates and smile...
In fact, as battery technology improves, I'd expect EVs to actually be retrofitted with BETTER batteries than they had when they were new!
Indeed, Muxsan have been replacing Leaf batteries with higher spec replacements for some years now...I broadly agree, but Tesla are pushing their luck with their bonded batteries. It's virtually impossible to replace a cell when they're all glued together. Tesla are betting big on them never needing replacement.
For pretty much all other EVs, as you say, individual cell replacement is possible and relatively simple. What's more, there are companies already springing up, who will do just that.
REVIVE® Workshop: EV Battery Service Centres | Autocraft Solutions Group
We provide full technical support and safely install workstations to help customers safely scale and maximise EV battery repairs.
The idea that if anything goes wrong with an EV battery cell, the entire battery pack will need replacing, is yet another (rather clumsy) bit of anti-EV propaganda. If someone started saying that if an ICE's water pump fails, you need complete new engine, we'd laugh at them. Yet when someone says something similar about an EV battery, the lack of experience among the general public is such that it sounds far more credible. And, of course, the big, scary prices bandied about, only help to spread the fear. I am very confident that aftermarket solutions (both repair and non-genuine replacement parts) will evolve with the market. 10 years from now, we'll look back at some of these debates and smile...
In fact, as battery technology improves, I'd expect EVs to actually be retrofitted with BETTER batteries than they had when they were new!
Pre-empting any further questioning - from me mukka - when I tell him the above, do you have any links to such service providers?
Edit: just read @Avocet post, with link
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...and the UK based workshop with a great reputation is Cleevely: https://www.cleevelyev.co.uk/Pre-empting any further questioning - from me mukka - when I tell him the above, do you have any links to such service providers?
Edit: just read @Avocet post, with link
I reported your, Avocet's, and others info (on battery repair) to my mate yesterday, who was very intrigued.
He did ask though, how are they going to do that? The batteries make up the entire floorpan....
I said I reckoned that 1. these people are specialists; there'd be no use being proficient in fixing a battery, if you were unable to actually get at it; and
b. your car came from a production line. I therefore imagine that Jag managed to get the batteries in there in an efficient fashion, and not send each cell in, one at a time under the arm of a Borrower, through a teeny little gap somewhere............
He's optimistic about what you've all told him, as am I
Now; all I have to do is get my Director to get me an EV.......................................
Something like changing the battery in a laptop - would void the warranty and best left to Ann Experte.