EV are they worth it?

I reported your, Avocet's, and others info (on battery repair) to my mate yesterday, who was very intrigued.

He did ask though, how are they going to do that? The batteries make up the entire floorpan....


I said I reckoned that 1. these people are specialists; there'd be no use being proficient in fixing a battery, if you were unable to actually get at it; and
b. your car came from a production line. I therefore imagine that Jag managed to get the batteries in there in an efficient fashion, and not send each cell in, one at a time under the arm of a Borrower, through a teeny little gap somewhere............


He's optimistic about what you've all told him, as am I (y)


Now; all I have to do is get my Director to get me an EV.......................................

It's easy in some ways, harder in others. Theoretically, it's very easy, because the battery pack is bolted to the underside of the car. You just unplug the cables, take the bolts out, and it's on the floor! In practical terms, however, it's bloody heavy! A big battery pack can be up to half a ton. We do this at work. (Obviously, don't tell NutJob, but the factory burns down twice a week. which is getting a bit wearing now... ;) ). We lift the car on a conventional 2-post hoist, and then we have a little scissor lift on a trolley that goes under the battery.

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There are IMI courses that the technicians have to go on - Levels 1-4 I think, and various PPE (the big rubber "clown shoes", apron, gloves, etc). The car will have a battery removal procedure, but it's basically a case of making sure everything is isolated and then just disconnecting the hoofing great connector.

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And making sure it's not live:

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once the battery pack is unbolted, you just lower the scissor lift and wheel it out from under the car. On some cars, there would be heating / cooling lines to disconnect as well.

We've never taken a battery pack apart, we just need to remove them to do certain jobs on the car. However, there's usually a sheet metal lid over the whole pack, with many screws holding it in place, and a bead of sealant. On some cars, you'll destroy the lid, peeling it off the sealant. Once that's off, you'll see the modules (boxes of cells) inside there. Also the battery management system. Remember that before even starting this, the Battery management system will have logged which cell(s) is/are faulty, so it's not like you have to take out all 3000 cells (or however many there are) and test each one. The diagnostic software will tell you that Cell#1435 is poorly, and that's in Module 6, so you just hoick out that module and swap the cell. (Seems they DON'T have a big ribbon that you pull, to get the cells out)!

In many ways, easier (and cleaner!) than working on an ICE. Obviously, you can't do that on a Tesla Model Y, with its adhesive-flooded "structural" battery pack, but you can do it on other EVs. "Caveat Emptor" & all that!
 


What a difference between that video, and the "woo-woo-scary" conspiracy theorist tripe that NutJob habitually posts, eh?! Actual numbers from actual official reports, instead of hearsay, innuendo and supposition....
 
I'm sold (y)

Anyone got an EV6 GT they want to send my way ;)

I'm in that queue too!:ROFLMAO:

The reality is that there's no way I could afford such a car if I was shopping with my own money. I love my company i4, but that's a £60k car. I tend to buy "sheds" for £hundreds or low £thousands at most. However, if I look after the i4, my company will flog it at some point, and another, well looked-after, never crashed or grounded EV will enter the 2nd hand market. We need lots of those, to bring the prices down and the choices up.

One thing I'm particularly looking forward to on elderly EVs, is the evolution of a healthy repair and reconditioning service, as well as an "upgrade" service, where the car might have been originally built with an early lithium battery technology and since then, a better battery technology has come along and someone has done a replacement battery pack that's 2/3 of the weight and twice the range of the original. Given that there's not much else to go wrong with an EV, I'd be much keener on splashing out for such a battery than I would be on (say) buying a recon engine for an elderly ICE.
 
What a difference between that video, and the "woo-woo-scary" conspiracy theorist tripe that NutJob habitually posts, eh?! Actual numbers from actual official reports, instead of hearsay, innuendo and supposition....
You know it...

...the JobNut will be along shortly to claim the video is a conspiracy; filmed and financed by the EffaBeeEye.
 
ICE doesn't self combust.

EV has risk of fire after a minor bump. A a major bump means burnt to the ground.
They can.

Unlikely.

Have you got reliable stats?

That video in 795 was a load of tripe.
Problems with the way body panels fit together?
 
I'm in that queue too!:ROFLMAO:

The reality is that there's no way I could afford such a car if I was shopping with my own money. I love my company i4, but that's a £60k car. I tend to buy "sheds" for £hundreds or low £thousands at most. However, if I look after the i4, my company will flog it at some point, and another, well looked-after, never crashed or grounded EV will enter the 2nd hand market. We need lots of those, to bring the prices down and the choices up.

One thing I'm particularly looking forward to on elderly EVs, is the evolution of a healthy repair and reconditioning service, as well as an "upgrade" service, where the car might have been originally built with an early lithium battery technology and since then, a better battery technology has come along and someone has done a replacement battery pack that's 2/3 of the weight and twice the range of the original. Given that there's not much else to go wrong with an EV, I'd be much keener on splashing out for such a battery than I would be on (say) buying a recon engine for an elderly ICE.
I'm looking at keeping my EV for the foreseeable.
 
This is why I don't like parking next to EV's.

This is rather worrying! I don't routinely check whether I am parked next to an EV, but I think I might do in future.
I envisage coming back to my car only to find it is completely consumed by fire, and any insurance claim might be contested by suggesting it was my (ICE) care which had burst into flames.
I'd like to see all public car parks ensuring that EVs are isolated from ICE cars when being parked.
 
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