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"Is it OK to anally rape prisoners with a poker?"

Seems to be a very arguable point.


That's Israel for you.
 
Afaik it is ir was common practice in Egyptian interrogation / detention centres ?? Probably part of the training ??

Gaddafis henchman used similar techniques that involved barbed wire

As for them 2 Israelis if true court martial them ? And stand em yp
Against the nearest wall fir target practice ??
 
Perhaps JohnD would like to expand on what atrocities Hamas committed on the 7th of October last year.
Rather than cherry pick which atrocities to expound on.
All in the interest of balance, of course.
 
Trazor said:
Perhaps JohnD would like to expand on what atrocities Hamas committed on the 7th of October last year.
Rather than cherry pick which atrocities to expound on.
All in the interest of balance, of course.
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As far as he's concerned, that didn’t happen.
 
Lawyers representing four Israeli reservists accused of raping a male prisoner, says they acted in ‘self-defence’. Meanwhile, groups of Israelis and lawmakers have defended their right to abuse prisoners. A short video @Al Jazz

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Far-right demonstrators - including some reserve soldiers and sitting parliamentarians from Israel’s current government -began rioting against the arrest. The rioters tore down Sde Teiman’s exterior fence and entered its premises, hoping to free the detained soldiers by force. Footage showed Zvi Sukkot, a far-right member of the Knesset, amid the mob assailing the base. When they failed to find the soldiers, a mob attacked another military base — one that houses the headquarters of Israel’s military court system.
Eventually, Israeli authorities restored order without surrendering any soldiers to the mob (two were later released without charges). Yet multiple right-wing parties in the current ruling coalition issued statements condemning the soldiers’ arrest and even defending participation in the mob.

Even now, as a wider war with Hezbollah and Iran looms, Israel remains deeply divided over an incident that feels a lot like the US torture abuse scandal in Abu Ghraib and the January 6 riot rolled into one. Ahmad Tibi, a member of the Knesset (MK) from an Arab political party, asked during a parliamentary debate over the abuses at Sde Teiman if “inserting an explosive into the rectum of a person [is] legitimate.” In response, Hanoch Milvetsky — a member from Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu’s Likud party — said that when it came to Hamas commandos, “everything is legitimate.” o_O

The Israeli police are controlled by the Ministry of National Security, which is currently led by Itamar Ben-Gvir — a far-right settler who has been convicted of crimes eight separate times. There are widespread suspicions that Ben-Gvir, who has been out front supporting the soldiers who allegedly tortured the Gazan detainee, intentionally obstructed the police response to the riots (not unlike Donald Trump’s reluctance to call in the National Guard on January 6). It’s serious enough that Yoav Gallant, the current minister of defense, has called for an inquiry into Ben-Gvir’s conduct.

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denso13 said:
Do you think the Israeli response has been proportionate and fair?
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Proportionate and fairness is down to the country that was attacked. Do you think, for example, a theif who steals a tenner should be let off or just fined a tenner? If you do, you can be 100% assured the thief will thieve again and again and again. Unfortunately a lesson needs to be taught and Israel will decide when they have been taught it.
 
So you think the Hamas attack was wrong but the Israeli response is ok? Serious question.
 
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