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Nobody is stopping people going private. It just means they won't be getting as much subsidy from the taxpayer.
Im talking about a principle that private education is wrong, which this policy chips away at by making it more expensive. How about improving state education.
I'm intrigued by your eclectic range of policy positions!
I'm intrigued by how people support all a party's policies.
 
Im talking about a principle that private education is wrong, which this policy chips away at by making it more expensive. How about improving state education.

I suppose the two go together. More money is needed to improve state education. So stopping a subsidy for private education and spending that money on state schools instead seems quite logical.
 
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Im talking about a principle that private education is wrong, which this policy chips away at by making it more expensive. How about improving state education
you are using a false argument to justify criticising Starmer
come on Blup you are so obsessed you are not using logical arguments

1) private schools are commercial businesses masquerading as "charitable status" removing VAT free benefit is not evidence that private education is wrong

2) the policy makes private education businesses on a level playing field with other luxury items

3) Labour are removing the VAT free fes and using it to employ more teacher in states schools -so the policy does directly what you want
 
Taking a straw poll from the Tory diehards in here, i'd say there's more than a whiff of desperation about this election.
 
Having taught in both state and private simple fact is private schools take huge sums from state education funding. All child minders unless they can register for vat ie earn above the vat threshold have to pay vat... its the inequality that kills.
 
It's telling that the Tories went straight in on page one of their election playbook:
Get the first lie out there in the media before the truth has time to lace up it's boots.
Same old, same old...only difference this time is they can't even afford the big red bus.
 
Posters make themselves look really bad when they cannot comment about other contributors to a thread without resorting to name-calling.
 
It's telling that the Tories went straight in on page one of their election playbook:
Get the first lie out there in the media before the truth has time to lace up it's boots.
Same old, same old...only difference this time is they can't even afford the big red bus.
you can fool some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time but you cant fool all the people all the time

I think this election was decided some time ago, the pubic are just tired of the Conservative govt and want a change

the £2000 lie will only work with tribal supporters

will it swing the swinging voters...I doubt it
 
Posters make themselves look really bad when they cannot comment about other contributors to a thread without resorting to name-calling.
You Cannot Reason People Out of Something They Were Not Reasoned Into

and if you try they stick fingers in their ears and say you smell bad.
 
Quick question. Why didn't the Tories just reverse it?
A more interesting question what do labour intend to change that has been left by the Tory. There are only 2 aspects really. Rwanda and workers rights. The other changes are additions. Main ones really could be said to be taxation changes - plugging loopholes. They have mentioned no changes to a set corporation tax which makes it easier for companies to plan. We are competitive. Previous reductions didn't achieve anything ;) according to the Tory. There has been mention of smaller companies by labour but no details. It's bound to relate to this

Labour has mentioned changes to the min wage. Cost of living based.

Public schools. Currently are charities. This goes back to somewhere to to teach the kids of the people who ran the empire. Someone I know via the web went to one and still talks to the person the runs it who reckons they would be better off if vat registered. They take vat and deduct vat they have paid and send what's left to the gov. Maybe when they join the vat system they become businesses. Pass - be interesting to see what happens.

Tax cuts. "Curiously" these may be possible near the end of the next 5year period if forecasts are correct. Might just mean a change to allowances to give some back. LOL nothing curious about this really.
 
Having taught in both state and private simple fact is private schools take huge sums from state education funding. All child minders unless they can register for vat ie earn above the vat threshold have to pay vat... its the inequality that kills.
The tax is not hypothecated so not wholly accurate to say the exemption takes funding from state education
 
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