Kitchen Workers' Deaths

Palestinan origin Israeli Arabs fight for the IDF.
While Jews, Druze and Circassians are conscripted into the IDF, the Bedouin and Israeli Arabs, Christians and Muslims are not obliged to serve. An estimated 1,500 Bedouin are currently serving in the IDF. Around 606 Muslim Arabs volunteered to serve in 2020 compared with 436 in 2018.28 Oct 2023
 
So when a foreign lunatic takes a bomb to a concert in Northern England and kills a load of teenage girls, the response is "don't look back in anger". Or another foreign nut job takes a bomb to a maternity hospital in Northern England, "let's move on shall we!". Or another fruit loop drives a van into a load of people, "mental elf! Don't comment". An MP hacked to pieces, "it's social media!"

And on, and on.

But when some people who went to a war zone and got a bit too close to the action... tragic though it may be and we all wish it hadn't happened, the response is different. Specifically, because it involves this conflict with these particular participants. Suddenly, a different, less tolerant reaction.

Which one should we really be more worked up about?
 
still some areas in modern Israel where happy bunnies exist
There are also some extremely unhappy bunnies and not just in refugee camps. Odd camps in some way. Been there so long they have buildings.
 
While Jews, Druze and Circassians are conscripted into the IDF, the Bedouin and Israeli Arabs, Christians and Muslims are not obliged to serve. An estimated 1,500 Bedouin are currently serving in the IDF. Around 606 Muslim Arabs volunteered to serve in 2020 compared with 436 in 2018.28 Oct 2023

I didn't realize the number was that high, for some reason I thought it was about 500 in total.
 
How come nobody questions the existence of Jordan, which came into existence around the same time as Israel? Or Pakistan? Or Bangladesh, which was created in the 1970s. Vast movements of people as a result. Problem solved, case closed.

But when it's tiny little Israel, there seems to be a different attitude. There's something different about that country, which means people seem to want to treat it differently. I wonder what it is...
 
There was a large movement of Palestinians out of Palestine. You might use the word evicted in some cases even within Palestine.
 
There was a large movement of Palestinians out of Palestine. You might use the word evicted in some cases even within Palestine.

750,000 roughly John, some Arab historians like to perpetuate the view they were marched out at gunpoint. General consensus is that some were, many were convinced to leave temporarily by other Arab nations to return after the war (1948) when the Jews had been defeated and many left because it was a war zone, the 1948 war lasted about 9 months.

The smart ones stayed behind and make up the 1.5 million Israeli Arab citizens, enjoying Israeli citizenship and equal rights.
 
And your a bigoted racist
You have proof of that of course?
I remember that time you used racist slang to describe Jews and it was removed by the mods. You tried to make out you were describing the cross sectional dimensions of a plank of wood by calling a person a "4x2”.

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I remember that time you used racist slang to describe Jews and it was removed by the mods. You tried to make out you were describing the cross sectional dimensions of a plank of wood by calling a person a "4x2”.

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4 by 2 is harness slang. I have no problem with it. Do remember my arguments about racism is the hypocrisy of it all and the double standards.

Elle is the first to pick up on sloppy harmless slang.

It's the hatred that's the problem.
 
But when it's tiny little Israel
"The old will die and the young will forget"
Ben Gurion I think it was, said the above in reference to the Palestinians who were expelled by the Israelis.
Unfortunately for the Israelis the Palestinians still living in the refugee camps haven't forgotten.
It's a tragedy for Israel and the Palestinians, October 7th was the biggest loss of life since independence, it shows that Israelis are no more secure now than they were 70 years ago.
 
There are also some extremely unhappy bunnies and not just in refugee camps. Odd camps in some way. Been there so long they have buildings.
The Palestinians are the oldest refugee community in the world as far as I know.
If Israel is the land of milk an honey for Arabs, why don't the Israelis allow those who were expelled the right of return.
 
The Palestinians are the oldest refugee community in the world as far as I know.
If Israel is the land of milk an honey for Arabs, why don't the Israelis allow those who were expelled the right of return.

Certainly the largest. I believe they're the only refugees in the world where refugee status is officially handed down to the next generation. The 750,000 that left Israel/Palestine now number 2.2 million. In 71 they rose up against Jordan in an attempt to overthrow the Royal Family in what became the Jordanian civil war. About 15,000 Palestinians were killed, many sought and found refuge in Israel.
 
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