NI Protocol - Windsor Framework

Vinty said:
You seem a bit confused.
Neither the DUP or the British government is advocating a hard border.
It is the Irish Government and the EU and who want their slice of the UK cake.
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The EU won't tolerate a non existent border with a nation that doesn't share the same standards as them. This is true for all countries bordering the EU.

Expecting them to accept one in Ireland is just stupid. It was never going to happen. Everyone knew this.
 
Vinty said:
The EU land border is between Ulster and the Irish Republic, so therefor that is where any customs posts should be.
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And thus destroying the Good Friday agreement...

You do know what that will lead to don't you?

Some people (especially dumb brexiteers) truly can't learn from history!
 
ellal said:
You can of course point us to the exact link to that claim?

And I doubt that the families of the tens of thousands dead of soldiers and civilians would agree with your callous 'every cloud has a silver lining' quip!
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Talking of callous "every cloud has a silver lining quips", guess who made this post about those who voted differently to them in the referendum:

"Things are already getting really bad (and will soon get far worse) that it's inevitable that someone will start a conversation on the bleeding obvious! And given that the tories/brexiteers are intent on killing off the NHS, they are by default killing off their support... Every cloud has a silver (greying) lining".

:unsure: Now, who was it…..
 
Odds said:
You know a hard border is unacceptable for implementing the GFA
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A hard border already exists.
The debate is, where should this border be placed.
Logic dictates that it should be between N. Ireland and the Irish Republic.
The reason this hard border isn't where it should be is because the Irish Republic and the EU have said that any such border would be attacked.
The existing hard border in the Irish sea is there at the request of the EU.
 
Vinty said:
I was referring to the sovereignty of the UK.
Scotland, Wales and England are not sovereign nations either, didn't you know that.
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I'm sure the Scots and Welsh Nationalists will disagree with that sentiment, me old clover - and England is more sovereign than all the others put together. Westminster makes the Law.
 
Vinty said:
All Sovereign nations have borders.
Would any part of England have accepted an EU border on its territory after Brexit.
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You'll remember that Theresa May said no UK PM could accept it.

Brextremist Johnson did. He claimed he had an "oven ready deal."

"Vote for me. Get Brexit done"

Typically of Brexer promises, it was all lies.
 
Mottie said:
Talking of callous "every cloud has a silver lining quips", guess who made this post about those who voted differently to them in the referendum:

"Things are already getting really bad (and will soon get far worse) that it's inevitable that someone will start a conversation on the bleeding obvious! And given that the tories/brexiteers are intent on killing off the NHS, they are by default killing off their support... Every cloud has a silver (greying) lining".

:unsure: Now, who was it…..
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Pointing out that a disproportionate number of brexit voters were in the older age group, and that the party they tend to vote for is dismantling the NHS is a fact...

Do you disagree with the fact that 23,000 excess deaths in 2022 (mainly of the greying variety) were caused by the near collapse of A&E services under nasty party watch?

Voter renewal is an inevitability, and then hopefully we'll get the whole of the UK back to what richie rich sunak described as an 'unbelievably special position' for NI...

Do you agree with his description of what he believes NI now has or not?
 
IT Minion said:
This is good news as it is NI one step closer to being Ireland's problem.
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But moreover good news for the majority in NI who had the good sense to vote to remain in the EU...

Many of those will have had the pleasure of growing up without the threat of large scale terrorism from both sides of the community, and will have no wish to go back to an era of fear and death and destruction!
 
ellal said:
You can of course point us to the exact link to that claim?

And I doubt that the families of the tens of thousands dead of soldiers and civilians would agree with your callous 'every cloud has a silver lining' quip!
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I didn't start the war in Ukraine.
Unlike some, i don't mentally masturbate at the prospect of dead Russians while watching Tik Tok videos of the same Russian tank being blown up, over and over again.
I was referring to the law of unintended consequences, EU starts war in Europe and at least maybe the unintended consequence of that is the EUs alleged concessions to the UK.

www.irishtimes.com

Has EU unity on the NI Protocol weakened because of Ukraine war?

Key British figures convinced Russia’s invasion will push EU members to keep London happy
www.irishtimes.com www.irishtimes.com
 
It's coming to light there were two versions of the text drawn up, the British version (all singing and dancing) and the EU version.
Which one do you think will be referred to if any disputes get referred to the European court.
 
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