Nigel did well..

carmanmemoranda said:
Oh the irony.

Throwing the racism comment around but ignoring Farages views and comments
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Oh the irony another one who doesn't understand anything than pulling out the R card.

So.. come on lets hear it. Are the Mallorcans racist for marching on the streets saying they want to put a cap on the Brits and europeans moving here and the detrimental effect they are having?

The obvious answer is no they're not. Why? Because they are stating facts, its true we are having a negative effect on their country. Its not that they are racist its because they are witnessing significant change affecting their long established friends and family. Its not a hatred its a reasonable argument.

I shall laugh as you either fail to answer this or just continue 'but but but Nigel is a racist...'

Yes oh the irony indeed.
 
Good old Nige

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festive said:
Oh the irony another one who doesn't understand anything than pulling out the R card.

So.. come on lets hear it. Are the Mallorcans racist for marching on the streets saying they want to put a cap on the Brits and europeans moving here and the detrimental effect they are having?

The obvious answer is no they're not. Why? Because they are stating facts, its true we are having a negative effect on their country. Its not that they are racist its because they are witnessing significant change affecting their long established friends and family. Its not a hatred its a reasonable argument.

I shall laugh as you either fail to answer this or just continue 'but but but Nigel is a racist...'

Yes oh the irony indeed.
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I've never argued for more immigration, or that it's good or wanted. I've argued for process and control.

But shouting at the immigrants and causing division helps nobody.

If you can't see farage doing that, then call me what you want.
 
Mottie said:
Mrs mottie works for the NHS on the administrative side. The waste and incompetence she sees on a daily basis beggars belief. It just wouldn’t happen in the private sector.
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So do you and your partner believe that the NHS should be fully privatised?

Bearing in mind that a significant part is already privatised ;)
 
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P.S Good old Nige, helping Labor back to power and failing (I suspect, hope and pray) to take over the Cons.
 
blup said:
On Mallorca, surely the concern is with anti social behaviour, not mass immigration. They would be fine if the brits behaved themselves.
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No it's a number of other factors, No mention of that one. Perhaps a simple summary is too big an increase in population to handle easily and also I think certain house prices.
 
blup said:
On Mallorca, surely the concern is with anti social behaviour, not mass immigration. They would be fine if the brits behaved themselves.
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And there you have it, no thats not the main reason and even if it was if a select group of brits were touching up the local girls and cauaing trouble.. the mallorcans protesting are not racist they are defending their home and way if life.

The main issue is population and housing. The influx of immigrants is swamping services for the local, creating overcrowinding, excessive traffic and also driving up house prices to astronomical levels. Basically pricing the natives off the island.

None of that is racist hatred from the natives and the people driving these campaigns it's completely understandable.

But of course Nigel says these things he's a racist. It's pretty much the same tactics used time over by people to stifle opinion that doesn't align with theirs. Resort to labelling the opposition using slanderous denigrating terms.

Look at what's going on in the USA completely the Same bs. Trump and Biden both camps being dragged over the coals in the courts for what? It's all about political status. The only winners there are the lawyers.
 
festive said:
But of course Nigel says these things he's a racist
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Between 10 and 12 August in 2008, the number of tourists in the Balearics peaked. There were 1,930,000, the overwhelming majority being in Majorca. This represented more than a doubling of the number of people on the island.

The population of Calvia now exceeds 50,000 - 53,765 if you like precision. In 1979 the number of inhabitants was just over 11,000. Population growth in Majorca as a whole, from a census of 1981 up to 2008 was over 300,000, a percentage rise of nearly 60%. In Calvia, as in other parts of the island, the growth can be partly attributable to immigration; it exceeds emigration by a factor of roughly one-third. Prediction for further growth in population, during this current decade, is less dramatic - at around 7% - but this might not be accurate; from 2000 to 2008, the island's population went up by 170,000, a 25% rise.

Maybe you should compare like with like and imagine 60,000,000 arriving here now and again,
 
festive said:
And there you have it, no thats not the main reason and even if it was if a select group of brits were touching up the local girls and cauaing trouble.. the mallorcans protesting are not racist they are defending their home and way if life.
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They are complaining about tourist related behaviour, mainly seasonal. They are not “defending” their way of life. I will hand it to nige though he knows how to push buttons
festive said:
The main issue is population and housing. The influx of immigrants is swamping services for the local, creating overcrowinding, excessive traffic and also driving up house prices to astronomical levels. Basically pricing the natives off the island.
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A similar challenge to brits buying houses in Cornwall
festive said:
Look at what's going on in the USA completely the Same bs. Trump and Biden both camps being dragged over the coals in the courts for what? It's all about political status. The only winners there are the lawyers.
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Cohenn might disagree that the lawyers are winners.
 
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