Pro-Palestine Protests

transam said:
Well you would know about victimisation :giggle: ;)

Have you contacted the NEC yet for the details of that anti Jewish / hate therapy course yet ??

We see you
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Please could you explain how you think I’ve victimised anybody

All I have done is ask for justification from you and others of the “Jew hatred” you accuse people of

And thus far not a single person has been able to produce anything.
 
Notch7 said:
Please could you explain how you think I’ve victimised anybody

All I have done is ask for justification from you and others of the “Jew hatred” you accuse people of

And thus far not a single person has been able to produce anything.
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You did not read the post ? Or if you did not properly ? Or you did not quite understand it ?

Or you have slanted it to fit your narrative ? Who knows ?

Or you are making an assumption as to what I really meant ? Which may or may not be correct ? What ever conclusion you wish to come to is not in my control ? And imo is your opinion ?
 
transam said:
You need to un burden yer self

Your vote in the brexit caper did not tip the balance in favour of the out come

You need to unburden yer self from the guilt you are carrying ;) and in doing so it will lower your aggression ?? May be ? Unless of course you have other issues ??
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Thank you for your concern, all very interesting I’m sure.

But there is really no need to carry on deflecting, you could simply explain why you are calling people “Jew haters”

Go on, unburden yourself from the guilt you are carrying

It’s a lovely day by the way, Im going out to mow the MILs lawn in a mo.
Have a great afternoon yourself :)
 
transam said:
Well the point is any such things ? That may have been said ? Are confidential ?

It would be poor standards if one disclosed what was said in a private conversation in a private / closed forum you may not think so but

Confidentialality is imho important
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If confidentiality is so important why allude to what others have said to you privately?
 
martygturner said:
If confidentiality is so important why allude to what others have said to you privately?
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Because false / untrue remarks / assumptions have been made
By others to which I have responded to in general ? Terms

May have been a mistake but I have not broken what I consider to be confidential info

About it really

You want to make some thing of it you crack on Transam gives not a jot ;) :giggle:
 
Notch7 said:
Thank you for your concern, all very interesting I’m sure.

But there is really no need to carry on deflecting, you could simply explain why you are calling people “Jew haters”

Go on, unburden yourself from the guilt you are carrying

It’s a lovely day by the way, Im going out to mow the MILs lawn in a mo.
Have a great afternoon yourself :)
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I carry no guilt as to my remarks that I may or may not have made in ref to the subject

The fact that you seem to have had a melt down over the caper is technically not my fault / problem ? Although I suppose it has allowed you to harmlessly ?? Work out your aggression tantrum ?? So that may be a benefit ???!

As for labours NEC comittee well they considerd
Diane’s remarks anti Jewish ??? Bit OTT imo ?
But none the less they set the standard for it

So if you require further info

as they set the bar / standard
You can or could refer that standard to yer self ??
 
Notch7 said:
Please could you explain how you think I’ve victimised anybody

All I have done is ask for justification from you and others of the “Jew hatred” you accuse people of

And thus far not a single person has been able to produce anything.
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I don't think anyone currently on here is guilty of pushing the age-old anti-semitic tropes, such as the puppet master. That's often a far right thing. But what about the specific example given last night of posters comparing the actions of the State of Israel to the Nazis. On another thread, I quoted from the definition adopted by the UK government, which is essentially the same as the widely adopted IHRA definition. The fourth point specifically mentions drawing comparisons with the Nazis. Soon after posting I went out to the shop, and when I got back the whole thread had been deleted (I assume for reasons unrelated to this particular point). It's a topic I find very complicated, so I am interested in anyone's thoughts.

Examples of the ways in which antisemitism manifests itself with regard to the State of Israel taking into account the overall context could include:

  • Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor.
  • Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation.
  • Using the symbols and images associated with classic antisemitism (e.g., claims of Jews killing Jesus or blood libel) to characterize Israel or Israelis.
  • Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.
  • Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.
However, criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic
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JonathanM said:
I don't think anyone currently on here is guilty of pushing the age-old anti-semitic tropes, such as the puppet master. That's often a far right thing. But what about the specific example given last night of posters comparing the actions of the State of Israel to the Nazis. On another thread, I quoted from the definition adopted by the UK government, which is essentially the same as the widely adopted IHRA definition. The fourth point specifically mentions drawing comparisons with the Nazis. Soon after posting I went out to the shop, and when I got back the whole thread had been deleted (I assume for reasons unrelated to this particular point). It's a topic I find very complicated, so I am interested in anyone's thoughts.
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Its not really difficult, why would anybody draw comparisons ? comparing Israel to the Nazis is to suggest that they are Nazis, which they are NOT.

I would point out that its Netanyahu has rather blown a hole in the last one by stating that any condemnation of Israels actions in Gaza is antisemitic...

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martygturner said:
Its not really difficult, why would anybody draw comparisons ? comparing Israel to the Nazis is to suggest that they are Nazis, which they are NOT.

I would point out that its Netanyahu has rather blown a hole in the last one by stating that any condemnation of Israels actions in Gaza is antisemitic...

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I have compared them to Fascists. Not Nazis.
Yes. There's a difference.
 
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