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Thankyou so much....
Supply Issues and Shortages In The Construction Industry
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We're the same, we've informed our customers that prices given are current of that day but come back for a requote when we know the date for works and prior to placing an order.
If there's no significant increase then we'll leave the price as is and take the small hit, if we see significant increases in materials than the price is passed to the customer.
As others have said, this is seemingly across all industries and I see very little in the media or being discussed in Parliament bout the impending inflation crisis. If materials go up significantly enough then projects will be shelved and the industry will go into crisis. In construction we are often at the very sharp end of problems in the economy because we see the effects almost immediately.
i know the bank of england have taken notice as they are highly concerned at the rate of inflation, it's highly possible we will see an interest rate increase soon in an attempt to slow it all down.
but yes very little is talked about in the news, instead they would rather discuss insignificant members of the monarch ..
Starting to see pieces appearing on the media the past few days.
The situation seems to go from bad to worse, I've had a saga trying to source the doors and door handles I want. I had ordered a Deanta brand door from an online supplier, they took my order and notified me it had been detached. A day or so later I got a call from them advising me that although the website had stated it was available, they received an order for 10 nr of them just before I placed my order which used up their stock.
Obvious *******s tbh, they prioritised someone else's order and cancelled mine. I'm trying to buy a specific door handle set from XL Joinery too and absolutely everywhere online is out of stock.
On personal work, once I'm finished with my bathroom and daughters bedroom, I'm knocking all work around the house on the head until sometime next year when hopefully the situation has improved and prices have normalised a bit.
We've just told our builder to defer until next spring. We were looking to demolish/extend the rear of our house this summer, he had delays on other jobs that knocked us back a bit, which we took on the chin, but this last delay was pushing things too close to a winter with no roof.
I only hope that the 6/8 months this gives us allows things to get better not worse.
Anyone got a crystal ball?
I only hope that the 6/8 months this gives us allows things to get better not worse.
Anyone got a crystal ball?
Kingspan just confirmed they’re up to 5 months delivery now.
It’s beyond ridiculous.
It’s beyond ridiculous.
Amazing the knock on really.. in the meantime companies are posting better than ever profits
Someone was telling me it was reported on the news that anyone thinking of building a domestic extension is advised to postpone until things improve.
That was 4 weeks ago.
That was 4 weeks ago.
As a Plumber/Gas Engineer, in no particular order....
Weekly/fortnightly price increases on anything metallic/plastic... so that is practically 100% (even acrylic products like baths and basins etc) of what we do. (copper tube doubled in price in 6 months)
Shortages of boiler spares, boilers, controls packages, radiators in less than regular sizes, shower trays, toilet spares.
Ever more demanding 'Uber conditioned' customers who seem to think that if I don't to reply to a phone call in thirty minutes another one will appear like taxi's...
so, be creative and deal with Boiler servicing and Gas Safety Checks when things get sticky on site, builders I work with say they run three or more jobs at a time as and when they can get trench blocks, concrete deliveries, bricks/blocks, timber, roof-tiles, wall tiles, flooring sheets.....
Weekly/fortnightly price increases on anything metallic/plastic... so that is practically 100% (even acrylic products like baths and basins etc) of what we do. (copper tube doubled in price in 6 months)
Shortages of boiler spares, boilers, controls packages, radiators in less than regular sizes, shower trays, toilet spares.
Ever more demanding 'Uber conditioned' customers who seem to think that if I don't to reply to a phone call in thirty minutes another one will appear like taxi's...
so, be creative and deal with Boiler servicing and Gas Safety Checks when things get sticky on site, builders I work with say they run three or more jobs at a time as and when they can get trench blocks, concrete deliveries, bricks/blocks, timber, roof-tiles, wall tiles, flooring sheets.....
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I would say, anyone thinking of building anything, be it in construction or manufacturing will be having supply problems.
I now have a spare bench at work, used for part done jobs that are waiting for parts, we cannot start some of our jobs because certain key parts are still in other countries.
Lead times have gone from being just long stated times to "F!knows - we haven't hot a clue when you will get it".
We also have to factor in a few weeks delay at customs in the UK to the mix too.
You’re seeing it on the supermarket shelves too now so it’s hitting the mainstream news more... the story is that track and trace is pinging so many people that there are no lorry drivers ... I think that’s half the story at best.
Id like a straight answer from them on just how much Brexit is playing in to this.
Id like a straight answer from them on just how much Brexit is playing in to this.
see also
"...How serious has the problem become?
Based on a survey of its members, the Road Haulage Association estimates there is now a shortage of more than 100,000 drivers in the UK, out of a pre-pandemic total of about 600,000.
That number included tens of thousands of drivers from EU member states who were living and working in the UK.
Even before Covid, the estimated shortage was about 60,000 drivers..."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/57810729
"In a detailed letter first reported by the Grocer trade journal, Asda blamed the shortage of delivery drivers on a mix of Brexit, which has affected the rights of European drivers to work in the UK, and the Covid-19 pandemic, which has restricted cross-border travel and sent many drivers home for extended periods of lockdown, as well as tax changes and a shortage of testing facilities.
“While we continue to take on extra cost and deal with all these issues that we encounter, we need to recover some of this additional cost,” the company wrote to suppliers.
Logistics UK, which represents freight owners including supermarkets, has estimated that there is a shortage of 90,000 HGV drivers, including about 25,000 from the EU who have gone home following Brexit. On top of that, there is a backlog of 25,000 applications for lorry driving licences.
Ged Futter, founder of the Retail Mind consultancy, said the demands from supermarkets were likely to lead to increased costs for shoppers later in the year. “This opens the door for inflation – they can’t deny it is happening,” he said. He said prices for shoppers could rise by between 5% and 10% by the end of the year."
https://www.theguardian.com/busines...suppliers-for-payments-due-to-driver-shortage
"Steve Fellows Haulage Services Ltd has a contract with a major supermarket chain and runs 15 vehicles.
Ms Salt said the Staffordshire firm was "struggling" to cover deliveries and had recently lost three European drivers, who had returned to their home countries.
"It's due to the paperwork and all the stuff that goes with staying in the UK. They just thought it was easier to go back home," Ms Salt said.
A shortage of staff has meant the owner of the business, Steve Fellows, has been forced to drive himself, spending more time on the road than in the office."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-57941937
"...How serious has the problem become?
Based on a survey of its members, the Road Haulage Association estimates there is now a shortage of more than 100,000 drivers in the UK, out of a pre-pandemic total of about 600,000.
That number included tens of thousands of drivers from EU member states who were living and working in the UK.
Even before Covid, the estimated shortage was about 60,000 drivers..."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/57810729
"In a detailed letter first reported by the Grocer trade journal, Asda blamed the shortage of delivery drivers on a mix of Brexit, which has affected the rights of European drivers to work in the UK, and the Covid-19 pandemic, which has restricted cross-border travel and sent many drivers home for extended periods of lockdown, as well as tax changes and a shortage of testing facilities.
“While we continue to take on extra cost and deal with all these issues that we encounter, we need to recover some of this additional cost,” the company wrote to suppliers.
Logistics UK, which represents freight owners including supermarkets, has estimated that there is a shortage of 90,000 HGV drivers, including about 25,000 from the EU who have gone home following Brexit. On top of that, there is a backlog of 25,000 applications for lorry driving licences.
Ged Futter, founder of the Retail Mind consultancy, said the demands from supermarkets were likely to lead to increased costs for shoppers later in the year. “This opens the door for inflation – they can’t deny it is happening,” he said. He said prices for shoppers could rise by between 5% and 10% by the end of the year."
https://www.theguardian.com/busines...suppliers-for-payments-due-to-driver-shortage
"Steve Fellows Haulage Services Ltd has a contract with a major supermarket chain and runs 15 vehicles.
Ms Salt said the Staffordshire firm was "struggling" to cover deliveries and had recently lost three European drivers, who had returned to their home countries.
"It's due to the paperwork and all the stuff that goes with staying in the UK. They just thought it was easier to go back home," Ms Salt said.
A shortage of staff has meant the owner of the business, Steve Fellows, has been forced to drive himself, spending more time on the road than in the office."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-stoke-staffordshire-57941937
I've been Self building a 65m2 single storey extension since March. In that time since I started the only thing I've consistently managed to get delivered is skips and the Mixamate concrete for the footings! Everything else has come from multiple places as no one has the stock for everything in one order.
Bricks from Selco, Blocks from local BM, sand from Jewsons etc etc. Fortunately I have a van so cement bags were relatively straight forward as Wickes had just had a delivery while I was in there for something else so 50 bags later I had those sorted!
Add to that the price increases! 6m Roof beams originally £45 each when I first priced up and them struggled to get them up £70 when I eventually needed them. OSB T+G boards are now £30 each up from £18!
Everything is just mental! my only thing on my side is that my labour costs have remains at Zero!! Haha
Bricks from Selco, Blocks from local BM, sand from Jewsons etc etc. Fortunately I have a van so cement bags were relatively straight forward as Wickes had just had a delivery while I was in there for something else so 50 bags later I had those sorted!
Add to that the price increases! 6m Roof beams originally £45 each when I first priced up and them struggled to get them up £70 when I eventually needed them. OSB T+G boards are now £30 each up from £18!
Everything is just mental! my only thing on my side is that my labour costs have remains at Zero!! Haha
The bad thing about it though is it's probably raising the overall cost of the materials by say 40%, offsetting a lot of the good savings you're making on labour. It sucks mate.