Wales becomes Trumpton

Brigadier said:
The point being that a competent and attentive driver, doing 59 in a 60 (where 59 was appropriate for the conditions and situation) would be able to not have the impact in the first place.
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That's different to this scenario, where I'm comparing 19 and 59 as equally low speed in certain circumstances,
Brigadier said:
Adhering to an (perceived) unjustifiably low speed limit might lessen the consequences of an impact in theory, but it might

a. increase the likelihood of it happening, and
b. actually increase its severity (as the "comatose" driver fails to take a level of evasive action that they would have done, if they'd been more "switched on")
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Yes, I know the best thing is not to have an accident in the first place, but, if the above does cause an accident, then surely slower is better,
 
denso13 said:
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The point being, how big an "if", your "if" is.

Where I live, the roads are all 30mph.

Not a cat in hell's chance I will do anything close to that. Mostly less than 15 and, for a couple of stretches, walking pace.

Too many lackwits who just abandon their cars where they feel like, too many kids (some of who can't be much older than five) darting out into the road from between aforementioned abandoned cars......

And I honestly think I'm far more likely to have a bump here, then when I get into the open roads where I have a better chance of spotting the buggers (y)
 
I'm equating low speeds on good roads, 20mph limit on a straight road with 50mph limit on a motorway, they both feel slow. I still think the lower one is better for you. But we are just going round in circles now.
 
Brigadier said:
The point being that a competent and attentive driver, doing 59 in a 60 (where 59 was appropriate for the conditions and situation) would be able to not have the impact in the first place.
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And if everybody was competent and attentive this thread wouldn't exist
 
Brigadier said:
The point being, how big an "if", your "if" is.

Where I live, the roads are all 30mph.

Not a cat in hell's chance I will do anything close to that. Mostly less than 15 and, for a couple of stretches, walking pace.

Too many lackwits who just abandon their cars where they feel like, too many kids (some of who can't be much older than five) darting out into the road from between aforementioned abandoned cars......

And I honestly think I'm far more likely to have a bump here, then when I get into the open roads where I have a better chance of spotting the buggers (y)
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And you've just put up a good argument for a 20 limit
 
Brigadier said:
You've quoted my post where I stated that I drive well below the limit as it exists.

So no need to shout the self-evident.
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Which proves why limits are needed, in your example a good reason for 20. Because as you say others will drive faster. 20 may still be too fast,I agree
 
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