War Machine

[transam]

During those first months of the invasion the Russian troops turned on civilians prompting calls for indictment on war crimes and genocide - but when the Zionists do it, those calls are denied by western governments. It all depends on which team you support.

Tis the way the world / politics work

Has always been so

Iran / Iraq war ??

Chemical weapons use ?

 

[Odds]

“The US strategy for regime change in Moscow has long been in preparation” - that’s opinion not evidence


Given USA and the West has spent its time from before 2022 until now being constantly reluctant to supply the equipment for Ukraine to win, all they’ve done is constantly give too little too late

Perhaps - but it explains why Putin has a zero-tolerance approach to dissenters like Alexei Navalny.

 

[Odds]

Tis the way the world politics work

Has always been so

Iran / Iraq war ??

Chemical weapons use ?

The actions of Russian troops towards Ukrainian civilians has nothing to do with politics. They were committing war crimes. Just like the IDF in Gaza.

 

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The actions of Russian troops towards Ukrainian civilians has nothing to do with politics. They were committing war crimes. Just like the IDF in Gaza.

The way I read you were hinting at hypocracy ?

Russia

Israel

The wests reaction ect ect

 

[Notch7]

During those first months of the invasion the Russian troops turned on civilians prompting calls for indictment on war crimes and genocide - but when the Zionists do it, those calls are denied by western governments. It all depends on which team you support.

It’s not equivalent.

Ukraine didn’t send terrorists into Russia killing 1400 of them and taking a load hostage.


I note there’s plenty of left wing / Corbyn supporters that are ideologically supportive of Palestine…..none of them made a big fuss about the Russians reducing Mariupol to rubble, stealing children and committing war crimes.

In fact Corbyn repeatedly talks about a “negotiated solution” for Ukraine, which actually means giving large chunks of Ukraine to Putin abd excusing his war crimes. The left are hypocrites

 

[Notch7]

Despite EU sanctions an estimate by the Royal United Services Institute (RUSI) think-tank, says Russia can now produce 125 tanks per month, more than enough to replace those destroyed in recent fighting; so boosting Ukrainian defence manufacturing in drones and artillery ammunition is now considered a national priority.Ukraine needs an extra 240,000 shells a month to even keep pace with Russia. One Ukrainian soldier recently noted, in an interview with Politico, that the accuracy of artillery units increased by 250 percent when paired with drones.

Drone Wars: the future for a 21st century battlefield.

Ukraine have spent the whole war from 2022 being outnumbered significantly on artillery shells.

But Ukraine are now losing to Russia because they’ve virtually run out and the ratio is now 10 to 1 in favour of Russia

 

[ajohn]

any leader would’ve done the same

Actually the other lot backed him - if people listened to sane sensible news they would know that,

 

[Odds]

It’s not equivalent.

Ukraine didn’t send terrorists into Russia killing 1400 of them and taking a load hostage.


I note there’s plenty of left wing / Corbyn supporters that are ideologically supportive of Palestine…..none of them made a big fuss about the Russians reducing Mariupol to rubble, stealing children and committing war crimes.

In fact Corbyn repeatedly talks about a “negotiated solution” for Ukraine, which actually means giving large chunks of Ukraine to Putin abd excusing his war crimes. The left are hypocrites

I'm not making an equivalent point, just using an example for comparison to how the west responds to both conflicts - Corbyn was being realistic in regard to them: a negotiated settlement is the only way those conflicts can be resolved.

 

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I'm not making an equivalent point, just using an example for comparison to how the west responds to both conflicts - Corbyn was being realistic in regard to them: a negotiated settlement is the only way those conflicts can be resolved.

Hypocrisy than ??

 

[ajohn]

being constantly reluctant to supply the equipment for Ukraine to win, all they’ve done is constantly give too little too late

Why end a proxy war soon? Given the aim it would not make much sense. Analysts seem to think that Russia can only keep this up for 3 years. No one seemed to point out that it could not be a short war. Or that once Ukraine had to attack what was left of the Russian occupation it would get even more difficult. Actually in some respects Ukraine gains have been part Russian withdrawals so that the can concentrate things into specific areas and establish better defence lines.

On the other hand just what can be sent to them that they can effectively use and when? Also what does the US statement prevent Russia from ever doing similar again mean. In some ways that is what it is all about and there are rather definite indications of a style of preplanning for a situation that was bound to happen.

 

[ajohn]

Corbyn was being realistic in regard to them: a negotiated settlement is the only way those conflicts can be resolved.

Actually given various views that still existed within Ukraine at the time this may have been possible. There is a tendency for people to forget Ukraine had a civil war and the implications of one side forcing it's views on the other, It doesn't mean that the "loosers" agreed.

 

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Violence sorts out most or many issues
Been doing so since man / woman walked the earth

If it don’t it’s because not enough was used

 

[Vinty]

The reality is Tomy Blair is not a war criminal, he was just a puppet to the USA and any leader would’ve done the same

Not true.
The French didn't get involved or the Germans.
Was it a case that the French and Germans had their own intelligence sources which suggested that Blair was lying about WMDs.

 

[ajohn]

suggested that Blair was lying about WMDs.

That came from our own MI not Blair. And our MI work closely with the US equivalent. Real terms Blair was a patsy.

Also as I have mentioned before the Tory of the time fully supported him. Asked directly on the TV when the intent to go to war was fact. Not just any Tory - the one that was set to become PM.

 

[Vinty]

That came from our own MI not Blair. And our MI work closely with the US equivalent. Real terms Blair was a patsy.

According to the Chilcott report Blair didn't question the dossier compiled by the intelligence services.