Wind Turbines

Justin Passing said:
Renewables are contributing to the electricity which is being paid for on the leccy bill, so they sure as hell affect the price of that electricity. So if you increase the proportion which is cheap, what should happen to the bill? Did that happen?
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Electricity prices are set by the most expensive provider online at the time. As long as expensive Gas is in the mix then the rate is fixed to their price.
 
But the windfarms sign contracts saying they will pay back amounts over their named price (to the government)

Which looks to me like a sort of tax, paid indirectly by the consumer.
 
Now, if you want to see what CfD look like with the grid connection included then have a look at the Dutch figures, theirs is similar but covers that too.

PS. Wattsupwiththat and briefings for Britain? A climate science denier and a hard right PR group. No, just no.
 
IT Minion said:
Now, if you want to see what CfD look like with the grid connection included then have a look at the Dutch figures, theirs is similar but covers that too.

PS. Wattsupwiththat and briefings for Britain? A climate science denier and a hard right PR group. No, just no.
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Are you suggesting that Justin gets his opinions from climate deniers and right-wing extremists? As well as sources with Big Oil funding?
 
Why does "questioning" something that might go against the narrative so easily raise all the same non productive comments???
 
JohnD said:
Why does posting garbage get criticised?
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Here's some "garbage" for you JohnD'ski.

Which is cheaper?

Deep mined coal burnt in a power station to create electricity.

Or

1000 off shore wind turbines.


Come back to us please with real world figures that explain the economics.
 
Dork Lard said:
Here's some "garbage" for you JohnD'ski.

Which is cheaper?

Deep mined coal burnt in a power station to create electricity.

Or

1000 off shore wind turbines.


Come back to us please with real world figures that explain the economics.
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You tell me, and state your sources, so we can check


Troll.
 
Justin Passing said:
What I said was correct. I didn't say I believed it.
"There's a significant number of people saying Boris would be a great PM again. " is true.
It's not me agreeing with it. Those are different concepts.
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Pat ex said:
You disappoint me Justin..
That reply takes the crown of "swerve almighty" for today, IMO.
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Justin Passing said:
That's because you wanted the words to be other than what they were.
You do it a lot.
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I can assure you that I have little interest in your argument, and I haven't even read most of it.
It was the just the first paragraph, (reprinted for your benefit to reflect on what you wrote), that caused me to come to the conclusion that I did.
 
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JohnD said:
You tell me, and state your sources, so we can check


Troll.
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Try not to lower yourself even further in everyones opinion JohnD'ski. Do some homework & FFS stop being the anally retentive banal persona that you currently project.

The economics of deep mined coal & offshore wind farms are immensely different, yet the end product seems to cost exactly the same.

You are asleep, wake up.
 
IT Minion said:
Electricity prices are set by the most expensive provider online at the time. As long as expensive Gas is in the mix then the rate is fixed to their price.
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IT Minion said:
Now, if you want to see what CfD look like with the grid connection included then have a look at the Dutch figures, theirs is similar but covers that too.

PS. Wattsupwiththat and briefings for Britain? A climate science denier and a hard right PR group. No, just no.
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First part of that is useful - this is progress, thank you.

Second part: - It's just a screen shot. As I said some are very biased/extreme. It's not hard to spot them.

JohnD said:
Are you suggesting that Justin gets his opinions from climate deniers and right-wing extremists? As well as sources with Big Oil funding?
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Stop your trolling. Go away.

JohnD said:
Why does posting garbage get criticised?
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That would be your posts, plus other misquoters.


Pat ex said:
I can assure you that I have little interest in your argument, and I haven't even read most of it.
It was the just the first paragraph, (reprinted for your benefit to reflect on what you wrote), that caused me to come the the conclusion that I did.
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I know what I wrote. Maybe you should shut up and read a bit more and not make silly accusations, next time? Habit of yours.
 
IT Minion said:
Electricity prices are set by the most expensive provider online at the time. As long as expensive Gas is in the mix then the rate is fixed to their price.
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Looks like the gas market sets a percentage of the electricity price however it's generated.

So if you have 99% " free" wind power (the ofgem site says it's free so it must be true) and 1% gdawful expensive gas market in there, who gets the money?

(My leccy is all green, so I'll just have the free stuff, thanks?)


I see that the PLAN is to include
"de-coupling costly global fossil fuel prices from electricity produced by cheaper renewables, a step to help ensure consumers are seeing cheaper prices as a result of lower-cost clean energy sources"

This at ofgem explains to an extent but is old.
 
Pat ex said:
It wasn't an accusation, it was my opinion, based solely on your first paragraph. I made that obvious.
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Well if it was based on not reading the words, in the forst paragraph, how would one value your Opinion ?
 
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