Death penalty

Should we bring back the death penalty


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Fascinating a split vote so far. Id say without question yes. Why let anyone who takes a life live? I am surprised there aren't more cases of people 'waiting at the gates' for said person to be released from prison for them to end up under a car or worse moments later.

Justification
Deterrence
Public safety
Some form of closure for the family/friends.
There aren't people waiting at the gates because the system protects criminals and victims will not know their movements.
I was randomly attacked in my youth by a mad traveller who then pretended to be mentally ill.
He served a few months and his identity was strongly protected by the authorities, starting from police and judges.
Unofficially I went into the police book as a dangerous individual looking to whack my attacker and as far as I know that stain is still unofficially there.
Possibly because I am an immigrant from the land of mafia?
Or because after the attack I told the plod to find him before me or there would've been need for an undertaker?
Did they take me that seriously?
 
That guy who did 17 years woulda been stuffed wouldn't he? Or Timothy Evans? Never mind though, he had a pardon, so all good.

Things are very different now-a-days, less circumstantial evidence, much more scientific evidence, some of which is indisputable.

I would not count the evidence against the likes of Lucy Letby, in that category.
 
YEP for cases that there is no doubt whatsoever .
And then dont make it immediate tell them they will be in prison for 5/10 years and without warning taken out one morning and executed
 
YEP for cases that there is no doubt whatsoever .
And then dont make it immediate tell them they will be in prison for 5/10 years and without warning taken out one morning and executed
So easy when you think about it
 
State wise the US is more or less 50 50 split on the subject That down to some states having it on it's books and refusing to apply it. One of those appears to want to refine the method - might be down to problems obtaining the chemicals needed.

UK One particular mention on this really kicked it's end off.
When looking back on an execution-free half century, we should not forget those men and women whose deaths it took to spur us towards abolition. Timothy Evans was hanged in 1950 for the murder of his baby daughter, only for the real killer to confess three years later – the same year in which Derek Bentley was hanged despite doubts about his role in the murder of a policeman (his conviction was posthumously quashed in 1998). And in 1955, there was public outrage when Ruth Ellis was executed, not least because she had suffered incredible physical and emotional abuse at the hands of the man she killed. These manifestly unfair hangings galvanised the anti-death penalty movement and spurred parliament to suspend the death penalty in 1965.
Despite our horrific experiences with capital punishment, there are still calls to reinstate the death penalty today. It’s worth bearing in mind that if we had capital punishment, the likes of Angela Cannings and Sally Clark might have shared the same fate as Evans, Bentley and Ellis. Like Evans, they were convicted of murdering their babies, and, like Ellis, such murders flew in the face of society’s expectations of women. Cannings and Clark, though, were both released from prison when it became clear they did not commit the crimes they were convicted of. If we had the death penalty, the blood of Cannings and Clark would be on our hands.

Also
So we should be glad that the UK ratified the 13th Protocol to the European Convention on Human Rights in 2003 and abolished the death penalty in all circumstances.

There is also lots around comparing it's effectiveness as a deterrent.
 
Bring it back for cut and dried cases i.e the murder of those childeren in Southport, The murder of lee Rigby, the crossbow killer, the Soham child muersrer etc,etc etc.
Who decides it is a clear cut case? The courts?

Those people who have got it wrong before ?
 
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