Wales becomes Trumpton

[Harry Bloomfield]

Is there an exemption for white vans?

You would assume so, judging by the speeds they go at, around here..

 

[securespark]

No, I specifically said the 30 to 20 doesn't affect me, but another change does. One based on nothing more than a group of advisers' wet dreams and ego trips.
That the customer will pay for, yet get nothing extra to show for it.

Can't you say what it is?

 

[Brigadier]

Can't you say what it is?

No, it is still in dispute.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Can't you say what it is?

Ulez ?

 

[securespark]

20mph limit is working and journey times just 45 seconds longer, analysis shows

The results have been called 'astonishing and far greater than would have been predicted'

www.walesonline.co.uk

 

[motorbiking]

it’s unbelievable isn’t. Astonishing really. I wonder if the company behind it has any links to the contractors who implemented the original study and implemented the changes to the road network.

 

[Brigadier]

20mph limit is working and journey times just 45 seconds longer, analysis shows

The results have been called 'astonishing and far greater than would have been predicted'

www.walesonline.co.uk

You'd think they'd not be so stupid as to use the word "astonishing" for starters, so as to maintain even a trace of credibility.

Obviously not.

 

[motorbiking]

Or call them road safety experts in one press release and data analysts in another. Fact is they were an IT contractor company spawned during the dodgy days of transport infrastructure contractors bidding to operate public transport (tube lines metronet etc). The JVs worked out they could award contracts to themselves by creating their own Suppliers. Agilysis Is one such firm.

 

[Mottie]

I heard that they are putting signs up in Wales asking cyclists to allow at least 1.5 metres clearance when passing cars.

 

[motorbiking]

My mistake - this appears to be a different company. The founder is an ex-speed camera partnership employee. <20 people. Comment stand - hired no doubt to distract away from all the negativity. Astonishing, that anyone would be dumb enough to claim success in less than a week. The key will be to see what happens to Wales K & SI for 20 zones.

 

[Deleted member 294929]

Chris Rea has set out to get home for Christmas.

Good luck Chris

 

[motorbiking]

I think I get the strategy now.

Mark Drakeford says Ulez-style congestion charge in Wales a 'last resort'

The use of clean air zones – like the controversial ultra-low emission zone in London – are included in the Bill but only as a 'fallback'

www.dailypost.co.uk

Introduce 20mph zones to increase traffic journeys meaning vehicle engines running for longer, then introduce a ULEZ to raise money to pay for all the lost income from a declining tourist industry and other economic output.

But don't worry its all going to be an astonishing success, that you simply wouldn't believe.

 

[noseall]

success in less than a week

Shows how effective it is.

 

[motorbiking]

It's funny how politicians say "we are listening" but the answer is still "no". Of course if you don't have the numbers you will always fail.

Wales 20mph: No confidence vote in minister Lee Waters fails

Motion against Lee Waters, who led introduction of Wales' new default speed limit, is voted down.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[motorbiking]

Astonishingly successful scheme - immediately to be reviewed, due to problems caused.

If only they'd done that before introducing a blanket limit. £40m spent introducing the change, only to realise they got it wrong.

Pressure builds to scrap Welsh 20mph speed limit

Scheme causes consternation among councillors, who are seeking to review it in their areas

www.telegraph.co.uk