Wales becomes Trumpton

diy_fun_uk said:
What are some asserting in this thread? That speed limits should be scrapped? That drivers should be allowed to use their own judgment and skill to determine how fast or slow they should be going? Joking aside, I'm not sure what point some are trying to make.
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Denso in particular is dying on the hill that speed per se is the major determinant of everything bad.
Denso is making little to no consideration of someone actually seeing an issue and slowing down, rather than just ploughing on with (and to) oblivion.
Denso must have little to do today, so is filling up his time on GD.
 
denso13 said:
The introduction of 20 mph zones was associated with a 41.9% (95% confidence interval 36.0% to 47.8%) reduction in road casualties, after adjustment for underlying time trends. The percentage reduction was greatest in younger children and greater for the category of killed or seriously injured casualties than for minor injuries. There was no evidence of casualty migration to areas adjacent to 20 mph zones, where casualties also fell slightly by an average of 8.0% (4.4% to 11.5%).

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Effect of 20 mph traffic speed zones on road injuries in London, 1986-2006: controlled interrupted time series analysis

Objective To quantify the effect of the introduction of 20 mph (32 km an hour) traffic speed zones on road collisions, injuries, and fatalities in London. Design Observational study based on analysis of geographically coded police data on road casualties, 1986-2006. Analyses were made of...
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take a look at the casualty stats for London.
 
diy_fun_uk said:
What are some asserting in this thread? That speed limits should be scrapped? That drivers should be allowed to use their own judgment and skill to determine how fast or slow they should be going? Joking aside, I'm not sure what point some are trying to make.
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For me?

- yes to speed limits
- yes to appropriate speed limits
- yes to skilled and competent drivers
- yes to driving (BELOW) the speed limit, as specific conditions dictate
 
Brigadier said:
Denso in particular is dying on the hill that speed per se is the major determinant of everything bad.
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No I'm not. I'm simply saying that your injuries are likely to be less at lower speeds than at higher speeds, and you agreed that would be the case, all things being equal.

You then rolled back a bit from that by saying all things aren't equal. I really don't know what's so problematic about my position.
 
Or data

Here is London. Apparently there was meant to be a 40% drop in casualties as a result of wide spread use of 20 limits.

Year Pedestrian Pedal Cycle
2005 1224 372
2006 1303 392
2007 1292 461
2008 1208 445
2009 1055 433
2010 913 467
2011 980 571
2012 1123 671
2013 838 489
2014 779 432
2015 730 387
2016 875 454
2017 1412 685
2018 1366 782
 
diy_fun_uk said:
What are some asserting in this thread? That speed limits should be scrapped? That drivers should be allowed to use their own judgment and skill to determine how fast or slow they should be going? Joking aside, I'm not sure what point some are trying to make.
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Hence the need for limits. For ALL.
 
motorbiking said:
Or data

Here is London. Apparently there was meant to be a 40% drop in casualties as a result of wide spread use of 20 limits.

Year Pedestrian Pedal Cycle
2005 1224 372
2006 1303 392
2007 1292 461
2008 1208 445
2009 1055 433
2010 913 467
2011 980 571
2012 1123 671
2013 838 489
2014 779 432
2015 730 387
2016 875 454
2017 1412 685
2018 1366 782
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What's the breakdown? Have, car, motorbike etc. In what speed zones, especially 20 limit versus 30 versus 40 limits .

Statistics don't mean anything on there own
 
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