Wales becomes Trumpton

[motorbiking]

I have never claimed it was.

search says you are lying again.

 

[denso13]

search says you are lying again.

Well post it up.

 

[motorbiking]

"It's simple physics", less damage is done at slower speeds.

You mean more damage is done at slower speeds?

Lower speeds cause less damage, that is just a fact. It's science.

Agreed. Lower speeds are safer, it's basic science.

I think speed is relevant, mbk doesn't. What do you think?

I think your pants may be on fire.

 

[denso13]

Those are mostly just factual statements i.e. lower speeds are safer. Which one says that choosing a safe speed is just physics?

https://www.rospa.com/media/documents/road-safety/inappropriate-speed-factsheet.pdf

If average speeds reduced by 1 mph, the accident rate would fall by approximately 5% . This varies slightly according to road type, so that a 1 mph reduction in average speed would reduce accident frequency by about: 6% on urban main roads and residential roads with low average speeds 4% on medium speed urban roads and lower speed rural main roads 3% on the higher speed urban roads and rural single carriageway main roads.

 

[motorbiking]

Lower speeds are safer - is a factual statement?

Which is safer 10mph or 40mph on a busy motorway - everyone else is driving 50 or above?
Which is safer 30mph while texting or 35mph while paying attention?
Which is safer 40mph with a reaction time of 2 seconds or 35mph with a reaction time of 3 seconds?

 

[denso13]

"The higher the speed a vehicle travels, the greater the likelihood of serious injury or death if there is a crash. The risk of injury increases exponentially with impact speed. A crash at 30mph involves a lot more energy and destructive potential than a crash at 20mph."

Speed and injury | Brake

Find out how impact speed affects injury

www.brake.org.uk

 

[motorbiking]

Lobby group b*llox

 

[Brigadier]

impact speed

 

[denso13]

"The higher the collision speed, the more serious the consequences in terms of injury and material damage. This is a law of physics that involves the quantity of kinetic energy that is converted in an instant into e.g. heat and matter distortion."

https://safety.fhwa.dot.gov/speedmgt/ref_mats/fhwasa1304/Resources3/08%20-%20The%20Relation%20Between%20Speed%20and%20Crashes.pdf

 

[motorbiking]

Explain why we don't have 20% fatality rates for pedestrians hit by cars in 30mph limits.

We know that 52% of drivers break the 30 limit.

 

[denso13]

"A new report by the International Transport Forum confirms that lower speeds make roads safer."

Lower Speed Means Fewer Road Deaths

A new report by the International Transport Forum confirms that lower speeds make roads safer.The study examined how the road safety performance in ten countries changed after they changed speed limits or introduced automatic speed cameras on a large scale.All the cases indicated a strong...

www.itf-oecd.org

 

[motorbiking]

Read the report..

Particularly the section which discusses The "Safe System".

 

[denso13]

Particularly the section which discusses The "Safe System".

Irrelevant, that is about setting speed limits.

 

[motorbiking]

if its irrelevant, why did you quote it?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Do you realise how ridiculous that sounds?

Police Traffic enforcement has just about disappeared, so we need speed limits?

Who will enforce these limits?

Its not actually true either.

Vehicle speed compliance statistics for Great Britain: 2021

www.gov.uk

Ever seen any police cars stopping any driver. Other than very excess speed chase or similar. Regardless of the laws, it doesn't happen. Road safety is virtually speed limit/camera controlled.

Feel free to disagree, but any experienced driver knows it's unlikely to see a police car, let alone be stopped for lights, tyres, wipers road driving generally.