Paris Olympics, Womens Boxing

[JohnD]

You know i'm a Guardianista, old sock.

You mean you are incapable of providing a link to whatever document you saw?

 

[diy_fun_uk]

It's the start of a transitioning process to become a woman.
Some go on to complete the process, some do not complete the process, but they end up in a state that they are satisfied with, and they consider themselves to be women.
And they are legally considered to be women.

Is it only the male to female transitioning process that concerns you? Or are you similarly concerned with the woman to man transitioning process? Because your arguments are always about the man to woman transition, never about the woman to man transition?

It's the start of a transitioning process to become a trans woman.

In the true sense of the word, someone who transitions from male to female is not a woman and never will be, they're a trans woman. Someone transitioning from female to male is a trans man, not a man.

 

[motorbiking]

It's really sad that some find the need to continue posting brainless and nonsensical contributions in order to prove that their posts are brainless and nonsensical.

stop it then

 

[diy_fun_uk]

It's really sad that some find the need to continue posting brainless and nonsensical contributions in order to prove that their posts are brainless and nonsensical.

Don't be too hard on yourself ...

 

[Odds]

You mean you are incapable of providing a link to whatever document you saw?

take a look at the one i posted earlier in t'thread.

 

[JohnD]

Show me.

 

[Mrs Doubtfyre]

It's the start of a transitioning process to become a trans woman.

In the true sense of the word, someone who transitions from male to female is not a woman and never will be, they're a trans woman. Someone transitioning from female to male is a trans man, not a man.

Sorry but you're knowledge of the legal process is incorrect.
There's no such legal definition as a transwoman, nor a transman

The short answer is no: the law doesn’t define the terms “transwoman” or “trans woman” at all.

The Gender Recognition Act 2004 does change some people’s legal sex. Obviously the law can’t change anyone’s biological sex. The fact that the law can’t mess with material reality is the point Canute was making when he forbade the tide to come in. But section 9 of the Gender Recognition Act 2004 has the effect that some trans women (i.e. ... who hold a GRC ) are deemed for most legal purposes to be women,

https://www.legalfeminist.org.uk/20...nswer is no,t change anyone's biological sex.

 

[Mrs Doubtfyre]

According to your ideology, mistakes in determining sex at birth don't happen. So according to your philosophy, it's a reasonable assumption.
Wouldn't you agree?

That's great. So your claim, quoted above, is not supported by any evidence.

So you do agree that mistakes in determining sex does occur at birth?
Make your mind up.

Or are you unsure?

Or are you running around in circles with some indeterminate argument?

Reportedly, he is genetically male.

You claimed that the Algerian boxer was male. Please provide your evidence of these reports.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

Sorry but you're knowledge of the legal process is incorrect.
There's no such legal definition as a transwoman, nor a transman

https://www.legalfeminist.org.uk/2020/07/17/does-the-law-say-that-trans-women-are-women/#:~:text=The short answer is no,t change anyone's biological sex.

Did I mention the legal process?

To me, it's irrelevant what the legal process and laws state around this.

You're very much in the Pat Ex mould, replying to peoples posts with stuff they didn't type or infer.

Forum Member: I test drove a Ford Focus the other day, didn't like it one bit, terrible car.
You: Oh, so you're saying all Fords are rubbish, eh??? Funny how they sell millions of cars around the world!!!

 

[JohnD]

You claimed that the Algerian boxer was male. Please provide your evidence of these reports.

You don't believe that he has XY chromosomes and is therefore genetically male?

 

[Mrs Doubtfyre]

Did I mention the legal process?

To me, it's irrelevant what the legal process and laws state around this.

Well you're welcome to your private opinion, but it shouldn't be presented as an assertion of the reality.

It's the start of a transitioning process to become a trans woman.

There's no such legal status. Your assertion is incorrect.

In the true sense of the word, someone who transitions from male to female is not a woman and never will be, they're a trans woman. Someone transitioning from female to male is a trans man, not a man.

There's no such legal status. Your assertion is incorrect.
Your opinion might exist in your mind, but your comment is not true.

 

[JohnD]

So you do agree that mistakes in determining sex does occur at birth?

Have you found any evidence where I deny that there are people born with genital abnormalities?

 

[Mrs Doubtfyre]

You don't believe that he has XY chromosomes and is therefore genetically male?

I've not seen any medical report, nor any result of any sporting body's conclusion.
Have you?
I don't base my decisions on bigotry.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

Well you're welcome to your private opinion, but it shouldn't be presented as an assertion of the reality.

There's no such legal status. Your assertion is incorrect.

There's no such legal status. Your assertion is incorrect.
Your opinion might exist in your mind, but your comment is not true.

Stop bleating on about legal status.

The law might be changed to state that anyone of height 5'11" should now be considered 6' tall. Doesn't mean it's true ...

 

[Mrs Doubtfyre]

Have you found any evidence where I deny that there are people born with genital abnormalities?

I haven't looked, but your constant claim that a man is a man, and a woman is a woman, (and intimating that nothing shall ever change that) suggests that you believe that the determination of sex at birth is faultless.