Wales becomes Trumpton

[Brigadier]

Why do you think the authorities bother with a 20mph speed limit?

A good question.
Safety?
Noise?
To be seen to be doing something?

 

[securespark]

You assume there is no reduction of concentration. Unfortunately humans are easily distracted. When the task doesn’t occupy our full attention we are distracted.

Concentration drops substantially when we are forced to drive slower than the safe speed for the conditions.

Easily distracted humans should not be driving!

 

[Brigadier]

Easily distracted humans should not be driving!

Nature of the human condition.......

 

[noseall]

A good question.

MBK claims they waste money and do nothing for safety.

I'm asking him why he thinks the authorities put these speed restriction zones in? Perhaps he has no answer and just likes to moan.

 

[noseall]

I think it’s laughable

Tell us why you think they put these 20mph speed restriction in, please?

 

[diy_fun_uk]

I can't see what all the fuss is about.

30 down to 20 is not a big deal.

Much of ones driving in a 30 is at speeds up to 20.

Depending on the road I can't really agree with that. I get it's subjective, however we have sections of 20 that to me could still reasonably be 30. The following pics maybe don't do it justice, however these two show part of one long section of road in my area. As you can see yes there's a degree of it being built-up with pavements etc, however I don't feel 20 is required here. And if you do try to drive it at 20-25, you guessed it, a good few vehicles will soon be trailing very close behind you.

at the top of the above pic, you go round a slight bend and the road continues thus ...

 

[motorbiking]

Tell us why you think they put these 20mph speed restriction in, please?

See post 118

 

[securespark]

And if you do try to drive it at 20-25, you guessed it, a good few vehicles will soon be trailing very close behind you.

Wherever you drive, there are often people close behind you. That's their problem. Don't make it yours.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Nobody speeding, but someone was driving too close and not concentrating.

Usually, but not always driving too close - you have to close up/ be close to overtake.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

Wherever you drive, there are often people close behind you. That's their problem. Don't make it yours.

It could becomes yours if you need to brake sharpish ...

Plus it can be difficult not to let it increase your stress levels.

 

[noseall]

Because it can be justified where there are vulnerable people such and where the hazards are not immediately obvious. Schools, playgrounds etc. not dual carriageways or main roads away from people.

Nonsense.

You said it wastes money i.e. costs more than it saves. You said it doesn't save lives or cut down on the casualty rate.

So How can it be justified?

When it’s a blanket 20 it is routinely ignored, as shown by all the research. Where it is carefully chosen it’s adhered to. The danger of blanket policy is people ignore the well placed limits as well as the bad ones. Humans also pay less attention.

You are saying there is no point to them because people ignore them, so we don't really need any speed limits?

Lol.

But the real reason, is because “something must be done” and politicians like to be doing “something” even if it doesn’t work

Nonsense.

 

[motorbiking]

meanwhile those who lived in the pilot zone are most against the policy.

Doesn’t look like this is about bedding in.

Petition to rescind 20mph speed limit reaches 440,000

The record-breaking petition remains open

www.walesonline.co.uk

@noseall I very much doubt your driving would be improved or decline if your Speedo stopped working. I would hope you have enough experience to look at the road, identify hazards, work out if you can stop in the distance you can see is clear and drive appropriately. That is what the vast majority of safe drivers do and it’s why 99.99999… % of journeys do not result in a car accident.

Those who advocate reducing speed limits ignore the human factors that lead to road accidents. Speeding (speed above the limit) by ordinary drivers (not drug users or crims on the run) account for a tiny amount of injury accidents. The big factors are poor observation and impaired driving.

Budgets are finite. £40m spent on the wrong thing with a £4bn economic cost is money wasted if it doesn’t save lives.

 

[noseall]

I very much doubt your driving would be improved or decline if your Speedo stopped working

Bingo! That's the very reason why we have blanket speed limits. Now you are thinking like a road safety expert, instead of a disgruntled Tory.

 

[gant]

It's not about safety, it's to get people out of their cars. It takes an eternity at the best of times to get around Wales, (whose idea to have a racecourse at Ffos Llas needs a frontal lobotomy) this latest measure should have you losing the will to live in short order.

 

[motorbiking]

This example changes the speed limit from 30 to 60mph as a result of trying to make it 20mph.